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April 1,2025
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n  Love: User's Manualn


Do you remember the bunch of books Bridget Jones used to carry about in order to make sense of her weird and chaotic life? One of them was just this one, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus, and because of its longish and kinda stupidish, funnyish title, I assumed, when I saw the movie, it was merely an amusing invention to go with the giddy thirtish female character (as you can see I’ve just discovered magic of the “-ish” suffix in the economy of the text).

So imagine my surprise when I found the book was real (hey, in my defense, what I recall happened some eight years ago!) and very famous (according to Wikipedia it sold millions of copies). Meanwhile I’ve heard and read a lot of allusions at and quotes from this book but although I bought it by mild curiosity from an antique book store several years ago, I’ve let it collect dust on my to-read shelf, for it was always another book more inciting to choose. Until now, that is.

I have to confess that, since I am not a great believer in such magic recipes, I’ve never come round this kind of relationship guides until now – they seem to me a little fraudulent in their pretense that they can solve major problems of the human soul and/ or behaviour by providing some general advice similar to those that help you understand how to make work a certain device. Consequently, my motivation for reading has been right from the beginning mere curiosity and a suspicion that, with such a title, I would have fun. Which indeed I’ve had, but when all was laughed and done, I found it, unexpectedly, quite sad. What a difference between this book, with its pitiful pretense of psychological study and great books on the same subject (although not “practical guides”) like Denis de Rougemont’s Love in the Western World for example. And if you think I am unjust by comparing grapes and tomatoes so to say (for everybody takes care not to compare apples and oranges) I will tell you that this is the very core of the problem: for such a book to gain an almost religious halo, it needs readers without much psychological depth, who think of themselves only as machines waiting to be fixed, should the right tool be found.

My daughter has been playing for many years now a computer game called Sims. If you are not familiar with it, I can tell you it is about a virtual family you grow up, build a home for, send to work and so on. Some time ago she told me, amused, that once she forgot to send one of them to pee and although he had become increasingly uncomfortable he couldn’t go to the bathroom by himself, he had to wait (and grimace, and dance, and lose self-esteem points) until she saw him and directed him to the toilet. Doesn’t it seem to you lately that we live in a Sims society, waiting to be told when, how and what to do? Helpless when let alone, unable to understand the others, unable to understand ourselves anymore without a self-help at hand. In aching need of statements like “A man sense of self is defined through his ability to achieve results” or “A woman’s sense of self is defined through her feelings and the quality of her relationships” which we don’t bother even to verify, so they seem the answer to all the problems.

And the sadness of all this it is that nobody thinks it demeaning to find oneself reduced to a mere stereotype: man is action, woman is feeling, man is silence, woman is talk, man is a rubber band, woman is a wave, etc., etc., etc., on the contrary feeling strangely comforted to be offered universal solutions like Love Letter techniques (oh, yes!), scoring boards, emotional tables and even a “Venusian/ Martian phrase dictionary” which teaches you how to speak your man/ woman language:

“We never go out” translated into Martian means “I feel like going out and doing something together. We always have such a fun time, and I love being with you. What do you think? Would you take me out to dinner? It has been a few days since we went out.”


I won’t bother to talk about the platitude of the above-quoted “translation”, but I cannot help expressing my dismay that millions (millions!) found it useful in improving their relationships, as though otherwise they could not understand a hyperbola or a hint or whatever. Besides, the book is full of such pearls of wisdom, many beautifully framed to easier be found in the rush of a matrimonial crisis:

When our partner resists us it is probably because we have made a mistake in our timing or approach.


Or:

Not to be needed is a slow death for a man.


Or:

Never go into a man cave or you will be burned by the dragon!


Nor will I talk about the kind of ridiculously mixed metaphors the book is full of (I’ve just given you an example); I will only jump to the final chapter with its involuntary humour, chapter that pretends that this is the one and only way to keep alive the magic of love. What magic? Love is not, to use a Stendhalian appellation, passion or vanity, it is not mannered or physical. Not anymore. Love is a tank of gas which any Venusian expects to be filled by her Martian. Correctly, I mean. Whence the utility of this book. To whom it may concern.
April 1,2025
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UTTER ROT!!!
The book shows men as creatures with very fragile egos and women as over sensitive.
Men & women communicate differently, maybe, but some of the "theories" are really wrong.

Like women talk problems for your empathy or sympathy, for the sake of talking it out and that they are not looking for a solution. Then, talking wouldn't make sense would it?

Like men hate being told how to fix the fuacet, or how to find the way...

This book has OUT-Dated views. I regreted reading it!
April 1,2025
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My biggest problem with the book is that it is extremely sexist. The book continually explains that this is just how men are, and then goes on to explain how women can learn to deal with that. Biggest load of crap ever. While some people will certainly fall into these stereotypes, I believe this book may cause more harm than good.

Some of the sexist highlights:
-a woman should go shopping when her man decides that he needs alone time (this is how she can show him her love and trust) {apparently women were able to spend more time shopping when they lived on Venus, because the planet was “covered in shopping malls.”)
-a man can leave anytime he wants – in fact, he cannot even control when it is that he may need to leave
-a woman is unfairly punishing a man if he leaves even when she really needs him and she then acts upset or hurt in the slightest upon his return

Gray thinks that only women are needy, and that only men need to be alone. Not so. Apparently, Gray thinks that women only ever want to be with their men, and nothing more. Well, that is simply not true for most independent, capable, and informed women.

But that is beside the point. Let’s assume that it is true. What bothers me even more is that Gray identifies the different needs of men and women (men need space; women need someone to listen to them/emotional attachment), but he then goes on to explain that when both men and women are experiencing their needs at the same time, the woman simply must concede to the man’s needs. Gray explains that *whenever* men need to be alone, that is just the way it is. There are no compromises. In his book, a woman, Cathy, asks the question: “If he gets to be in his cave then what about me? I give him space, but what do I get?” And here is the answer: “What Cathy gets is the best her partner can give at the time. By not demanding that he listen to her when she wants to talk, she can avoid making the problem much worse by having a huge argument. Second, she gets his support when he comes back – when he is truly capable of supporting here.” That is simply ridiculous. What a woman gets is *whatever* her partner can give at the time. A woman just must let the man have what it is he needs, regardless of her needs at the time. I’m sorry, but being in a relationship requires selflessness, and that means that both men and women have to give more than what our selfish natures think we can handle.

While I’ll admit that some of Gray’s advice is helpful (insofar as the individuals in a given relationship fall into Gray’s stereotypes), they simply are just not that profound. Essentially, “if you listen to women and try not to take them for granted, your relationship will be better.” Well, no kidding.

The book just seemed full of perplexing thoughts. For example: “Men rarely say ‘I’m sorry’ because on Mars it means you have done something wrong and you are apologizing.” Well, even on earth, I was under the impression that when you are apologizing, you say sorry. I don’t know why the definition of sorry would somehow explain why men would be less able than women to say it.

In the chapter about how to score points with the opposite sex, there is a list of 101 things a man can do such as bringing her flowers, listening to her, complimenting her, calling her, etc. Most of them are good, even if obvious suggestions; nonetheless, Gray’s view of women as subordinate still creeps in. My favorite thing a man can do to score points with a woman is #67: “read out loud or cut out sections of the newspaper that would interest her.” Good idea. Because I can’t read, and even if I could, women don’t read newspapers. Come on! Even more upsetting is that the corresponding list of 26 things that a woman can do to “score big with men” involves NOT doing things. For example, he makes mistakes, and she doesn’t say anything; “he disappoints her, and she does not punish him.” There are only a few things that a woman can affirmatively do to score points, one of which is “she really enjoys having sex with him.” Again, women are largely the passive actors.

I’ve wasted far too much energy and time already on this book. It is now dead to me.
April 1,2025
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Fortunately perfection is not a requirement for creating great relationships

Gender insight helps us to be more tolerant and forgiving

Men often need to go to their cave to recharge from the day

Women generally have a greater need to share feelings as a way of coping with stress

Men complain, "she is over-reacting", women complain, "he doesn’t listen"

I started to realize the true meaning of love -- unconditional love

I didn’t know that touching, holding, and listening were so important to her

It is never too late to increase the love in your life

You only need to learn a new way

We expect the opposite sex to be more like us

Men mistakenly expect women to think

Women mistakenly expect men to feel

Men mistakenly offers solution and invalidate feelings while women offer unsolicited advice and direction

Men are motivated when they feel needed while women are motivated when they feel cherished

Men are like a rubber band

Men primarily need a kind of love that is trusting, accepting, and appreciative

Women primarily need a kind of love that is caring, understanding, and respectful

Falling in love is always magical. It feels eternal, as if love will last forever

But as the magic recedes and daily life takes over

We come demanding, resentful, judgmental, and intolerant

By validating and accepting our differences, creative solutions can be discovered

Women are like home-improvement committee

He resists. She persists

A man's sense of self is defined through his ability to achieve results

They are more interested in "objects" and "things" rather than people and feelings

Achieving goal is very important to a Martian because it is a way for him to prove his competence

On Venus talking about problems is not an invitation to offer a solution

A woman's sense of self is defined through her feelings and quality of her relationships

Venus is covered with parks, organic gardens, shopping centers and restaurants

One of the biggest differences between men and women is how they cope with stress

Men become increasingly focused and withdrawn while women become increasingly overwhelmed and emotionally involved

To feel better Martians got o their caves to solve problems alone

To feel better Venusians get together and openly talk about their problems

A woman under stress is not immediately concerned with finding solutions to her problems but rather seeks relief by expressing herself and being understood

Through exploring her feelings in this process she gains a greater awareness of what is really bothering her

To feel better, women talk about past problems, future problems, potential problems, even problems that have no solutions

To forget her own painful feeling a woman may become emotionally involved in the problems of others

Martians have a win/lose philosophy

Venusians communicated louder and clear: "Together we could live in great happiness"

Given the opportunity to prove his potential, a man expresses his best self

Not to be needed is a slow death for a man

On Venus, they lived by a lose/win philosophy

Today they are happily married with three children: Motivation, Responsibility, and Practice

A man's deepest fear is that he is not good enough or that he is incompetent

Just as the women are afraid of receiving, men are afraid of giving

The Martian and Venusian languages had the same words, but the way they were used gave different meanings

Expressing feeling vs. expressing information

Women: we never go out

Men: that's not true

Women: everyone ignores me

Men: I'm sure some people notice you

Women: I'm so tired

Men: that’s ridiculous. You're not

Women: I want to forget everything

Men: if you don’t like your job, then quit

Women: the house is always a mess

Men: it's not always a mess

Women: no one listens to me anymore

Men: but I'm listening to you right now

Women: nothing is working

Men: are you saying it is my fault?

Women: you don’t love me anymore

Men: of course, I do. That’s why I'm here

When a Venusian is upset she not only uses generalities, and so forth, but also is asking for a particular kind of support

She doesn’t directly ask for that support because on Venus everyone knew that dramatic language implied a particular request

Women talk to convey or gather information

Men talk to explore and discover what is she wants to say

He hates to be pitied

Don’t try to help him solve his problem by offering solutions

Good communications requires participation on both sides

Four magic words of support: "it's not your fault"

A man pulls away to fulfil his need for independence and autonomy

When he is fully separated, then suddenly he will feel his need for love and intimacy again

Woman obstruct her partner (1) by chasing him when he pulls away (2) punishing away for pulling away physically, emotionally and mentally in both cases

A woman is like a wave. When she feels loved her self-esteem rises and falls in a wave motion

When she is feeling really good, she will reach a peak but then suddenly her mood may change and her wave crashes down

Men argue for the right to be free while women argue for the right to be upset

Men want space while woman want understanding

Men and women need to receive:

Women: caring

Men: trust

Women: understanding

Men: acceptance

Women: respect

Men: appreciation

The secret of empowering a man is never to try to change him or improve him

Give trust and not advice

There are two kinds of men. One will become incredibly defensive and stubborn when a woman tries to change him

While the other will agree to change but later will forget and revert back to the old behavior

Don’t argue but negotiate and discuss pros and cons

Most couples start out arguing about one thing and, within five minutes, are arguing about the way they are arguing

Four F's for avoiding hurt:

Fight, comes from Mars

Flight, comes from Mars

Fake, come from Venus

Fold, comes from Venus

To a woman the little things are just as important as the big things

I pretend in my mind that my wife was my most important client

I realized that success in the work world was not achieved through hard work alone. It was also dependent on my ability to inspire trust in others

Venusians idealize unconditional love

Martians give when they are asked

Men mistakenly assume that as long as she says yes to his needs and requests, she is receiving equally what she wants

Penalty points are destructive to relationships

Writing down your feeling is an essential tool

One of the best way to release negativity and then communicate in a more loving fashion

Expressing your feelings of anger, sadness, fear, regret, and love

Ironically, the very act of avoiding negative emotions gives them the power to control our life

Books can inspire you to love yourself more

Sometimes, by private writing out your feelings, you will discover deeper levels of feelings that you could not feel with another person present

Complete privacy creates the safety to feel more deeply

Motto on Venus: "Love is never having to ask!"

Motivating a man: appropriate timing, non-demanding attitude, be brief, be direct, use correct wording

You are never upset for the reason you think

Love is seasonal. In spring it is easy. In summer it is hard work. In autumn you may feel very generous and fulfilled. In winter you will feel empty
April 1,2025
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كتب(كيف تفعل كذا لتصبح هكذا )لها محبينها و أرى آن المستفيد الأول هو الكاتب لأنه سيصبح ملونيراً لو كان غربياً طبعاً
سيظل هذا كتاب التنمية البشرية الوحيد الذي قرأته بكامله و على فترة طويلة حقا
.و لكن
جزءية الرجال في هذا الكتاب افادتني حقا بل وطبقتها على الرجال في حياتي باختلاف مواقعهم و أعمارهم و نجحت!رغم انها مستفزة مستفزة مستفزة لاي امرأة علي وجه الارض

صعبة التنفيذ فعلا على كل فتاة وسيدة بل و تصيبهن بالحزن و اليأس احيانا..اولاً لانه ما يسعد الرجل ليس نقاطاً محددة؛ ابداً؛ و دي تيجي
April 1,2025
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مفيد جداً .. فكم نجهل من تفاصيل بعضنا. بقصد أو بدون قصد
ففي هذا الكتاب تجد الطريق لمعرفة الفروق النفسية بين الرجل و المرأة و بذلك سيتحسن مستوى تعاملك و تفهمك لشريك حياتك عندما تعرف انه يفكر بغير طريقتك، ضع نفسك في مكانه و ستجد الصورة تشعر بالحالة التي يفكر بها و يحكم بمقتضاها..
April 1,2025
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Six months ago my wife sat me down with tears in her eyes and told me she wasn't sure she was in love with me anymore. We've been together since we were 16. It was devastating. I spent the next couple of days moping around and feeling sorry for myself, and I took some time to reflect. I thought I found out what the issue was. We had fallen into a trap of feeling so comfortable with one another that I stopped doing the little things to show her I care. I'd help around the house and pay the bills and all that, but I let the romance fall off a cliff. While your spouse telling you she may not love you anymore is just about the worst thing someone can say to you, it woke me up. In a matter of weeks we rekindled our passion and love and got back to feeling good again. She was diagnosed with depression and given medication and it helped. Everything was fine for 6 months, better than ever, even. We both agreed it may have been the best thing that's ever happened to us - it helped me understand what she'd been trying to tell me for so long that I so stupidly didn't take seriously enough. It was as if we'd dodged a bullet.

Then it happened again. And it was worse. She was angry, empty, "done" with the relationship. So you know what I did? I blamed the depression. The next two weeks were hell - arguments that we never had in 11 years together, accusations and harsh words, serious talk of divorce and how custody would work with our daughter. Unquestionably the worst two weeks of my life. We slept separately. Tension was high. I thought my marriage was over, and I was in shock. I love the woman to death, no exaggeration.

I went looking for help elsewhere, looking for a book that might offer me some insight on what I'VE been doing wrong (not her) and thought John Gray's bestseller was worth a shot. Did it work? Too early to say. While I found much of the information to be repetitive and too generalized, there were a few key sections that I found particularly helpful. These are a few things I learned:

1) Me going to work, providing, paying bills, cleaning the house, mowing the lawn, etc. and expecting that to be enough was wrong. I thought that by doing these things I was showing her I loved her, but that's not what she wants, that's not what women want. While we've always talked, I was a poor listener. I would be distracted by my phone or by a ball game or by whatever else it was I was doing. She, in turn, probably resented me for it. I would offer suggestions on how to make "problems" better instead of just listening and offering sympathy. I've made a concentrated effort to really try to listen and not give suggestions since I started reading this book, and it seems to have helped. While she still doesn't feel the love (her own), I can tell she's softening.

2) I spent YEARS being selfish. I wrote books, watched every game always, ignored my beautiful wife's needs and wants. I would resent her for not giving back when I did try to show her appreciation, and I became closed off and distant when that happened. In turn, she likely pulled further away from me too, so we were left spinning our wheels.

3) It's going to take time for her to trust that I'm a different guy. It's a daily struggle when she won't tell me she loves me or give me affection or ask how my day was, but I'm learning to deal with it. She suffered for so long from my [unintentional] cold and distant behavior, and it's going to take some time for her to heal.

I realize much of this commentary has little to do with the book, yet it really does. While I've learned so much of this content from other sources and through some of the mistakes I've made as a husband, for those people who haven't read stuff about relationships, please read this. Not all of it is relevant to my life - and surely won't be to yours, either - but the concepts are important.

Husbands: Please, for the love of God, don't ignore your wives. Make her #1 all the time, and if you're anything like me, you'll get more satisfaction out of having her happy than doing things to make yourself happy. Make her happy and your own happiness will come. I'm a firm believer of that now. Be romantic - not just on special occasions. Don't wait for her to tell you what she needs (that's what I did, and it led to resentment because she was expecting me to just know) and be proactive. Surprise her. Remember what it was like when you first fell in love? Do that again. Do it often. Kiss her. Give to her and don't expect her to give back. Bite your tongue when you disagree over insignificant things. Be a man. Don't be like me. Hopefully you're reading this before it's too late, because I fear I'm already there. While I'm back sleeping in the bed with my wife (it's so great, by the way, after having slept alone for two weeks) I would do anything for her to give me a hug or a kiss or to tell me she loves me. I'd do anything for her to smile at me or tell me she misses me. I'd do anything for her to love me again. [Christ, now I'm crying.] And maybe she will, maybe it's not too late, but husbands - please, please don't ignore what I'm saying to you - read this book or something like it before it's too late. Don't be complacent that everything is okay, even if you can sense that everything is going fine. Change YOU, improve YOURSELF, then she'll follow (I hope). Don't try to change her. You're the problem, not her (it's always both people, obviously, but you can only control yourself - don't forget). You can be better. She deserves better.

And wives: Do you. Be wonderful and understanding and accepting, and realize that us men are sensitive too and are only trying to do the right thing. I've told my wife this many times in the last 6 months: I've learned how much smarter women really are than men. Women are so much more tolerant and forgiving, while men hold grudges and become defensive. Give your man time, keep on him (we're not as smart as you, remember, so we need constant reminders if we're failing or trailing off), and love him. Because I'm telling you from experience, when a man feels like he's let his wife down and she no longer feels the love for him anymore, it's the worst feeling in the world. A man is truly nothing without a good woman, and it's not a cliche - I've learned it's entirely true.

As for me, I still have hope that I haven't driven my wife too far away and that she may spring back like a rubber band (one of the good concepts from this book), and I'm not going to give up until I get her back fully. And if that happens, I am going to be such a better husband. I'm already trying to be (am being), even without her fully in it with me right now. That woman - my wife, my best friend, my everything - deserves everything I can give and more. Damn, I hope I'm not too late to finally figure that out.

Here's to hope. Here's to love. Here's to becoming a better man and a better husband.
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بعد تاريخ 21/3/2012
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April 1,2025
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dumb, damaging, gender essentialist nonsense

http://www.frowl.org/worstbestsellers...
April 1,2025
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This book was insulting and biased. Written from an unapologetically male perspective, it attempts to lump men and women into desired roles. The man can leave anytime he wants, and the woman, to show her love and trust (read: naivety), should go shopping. Yes, that's what his argument boils down to. I am all for acceptance, but when there are real issues that need to be dealt with, they are not fixed by saying, "Oh, that's just what men do." The "wave" section was particularly enraging as an attempt to explain away arguments and legitimate emotions through that-time-of-the-month moodiness. And the gender bias leaves no room for the non-traditional, i.e. homosexual, relationship. All a man needs is a woman, and all a woman needs is a man, right? I have news for you, John Gray: EVERYONE needs alone time, and EVERYONE should feel comfortable talking with their parter, and EVERYONE gets moody...including my father, my brother, and my man.
April 1,2025
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When I read a psychology book, I'm satisfied if I can come away with one new concept that sticks in my brain. If I can come away with multiple new concepts, I consider it a phenomenal book and likely will read it again to reabsorb things I missed.

While I don't feel like this falls in the category of phenomenal, I had a few take aways that were certainly helpful. Much of the material is fairly common sense and straight forward overall.

I strongly disagree with the reviews that claim this book is sexist. It sure isn't sexy to take a long, hard look in the mirror at the warts we have, especially in a world where men are called ToXiC for existing and women pat each on the back for being GiRl BoSsEs who "don't need no man." The same people that call natural gender traits "sexist" typically don't have insight to see it in themselves. But it is there. 100%.

I appreciated the author's explanation from the beginning that not everyone falls so heavily into these categories, and, being in a role that expects one to lean more heavily in a particular direction makes an impact on the traits we start to exhibit most heavily. For example, a woman working in a corporate environment or leadership role may lean a bit more heavily into the "Martian" traits than some of her female counterparts. Totally makes sense! I'm a hospital director, and I related to that; BUT I'm not naïve enough to say that I don't still have a lot of those "Venusian" traits in me. Some days more than others. And that's okay!

Overall, interesting one-time read in parts, and good brush up for anyone working in psych in other parts.

I'd rate this book a PG.
April 1,2025
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Based on one catchy phrase (in turn based on a billion tired stereotypes), Gray has earned millions.

His relationship advice boils down to this: all men are exactly the same; all women are exactly the same and opposite from men in every way; there is nothing cultural about this, it's innate; try and be more understanding and indulgent.

Of course, only that last bit is actually advice, and in many cases it will work. There, I saved you a few dollars. Go forth and purchase bon-bons or beer depending on your chromosomes.
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