Hemingway'in en beğendiğim eseri. "Çanlar kimin için çalıyor" dahi bundan sonra gelir. Sıradışı bir anlatım .Romanı belki iki üç defa okumuşumdur ilerde tekrar okuyacagim kesin. Konu sadece sevgi aşk değil,insan ruhunun öylesine bir şekilde derinliğine gitmis ki sanki sizde bunu biliyormuş sunuz gibi bir izlenim veriyor. Çok yoğun bir duygusallik var ama drama kaçmayan zekanın birleştiği bir şey insana şakır şakır gözyaşlari döktüren bir duygusallık değil sadece sarsıyor bir şekilde. Yinede nedense romanı okuduğumda hep aklıma "Casablanca" filmi gelir. Alakası olmasa dahi bir şekilde çağrışım yapmıştır bana. Belki de roman daki kahramanı (Bogart)Filmin kahramanı ile özdeşleştirdim:) kesinlikle herkese tavsiye edecegim bir eser.

Dull

I was incredibly tempted to abandon this book due to its dull writing style.
The sheer volume of unnecessary details was overwhelming, the plot was virtually nonexistent, and the characters lacked any real depth.
It honestly felt like a waste of time. However, a few days later, I found myself repeatedly reflecting on their trip, the fun they experienced, and even the very details that initially bored me.
So, although it's far from a great book, the author undeniably managed to make the story stick with me.

Этот роман "И восходит солнце" (в русском переводе "Фиеста", что существенно переставляет акценты и смыслы), в первую очередь, покоряет своей искренностью. В нем нет позы, а есть лишь усталость, топимая в вине и развлечениях, и поиск смысла. Смысла жизни, смысла любви. Искренность и правдивость во многом достигались тем, что многие герои имели реальных прототипов, в том числе, главный герой Джейк несёт некоторые автобиографические черты, и мастерством писателя их жизненность была перенесена на бумагу.
Эпиграфы, гениально подобранные к произведению, полно и всесторонне раскрывают суть книги. "Потерянное поколение", вернувшееся с полей битв Первой мировой войны, пришло с подорванной психикой, разрушенными идеалами и понятиями о смысле жизни, глубоко травмированные духовно и физически. На смену довоенным представлениям и понятиям приходит трагизм осознания бессмысленности жизни. Слова Экклезиаста "Род проходит, и род приходит, а земля пребывает вовеки.
Восходит солнце, и заходит солнце, и спешит к месту своему, где оно восходит. Идет ветер к югу, и переходит к северу, кружится, кружится на ходу своем, и возвращается ветер на круги своя. Все реки текут в море, но море не переполняется; к тому месту, откуда реки текут, они возвращаются, чтобы опять течь." выражает философские концепции жизни, выраженные в романе, концепции о том, что все в конце концов возвращается на круги своя. В том числе, и надежда "потерянного поколения" вернуться к нормальной жизни.
Из всех возможных способов быть раненым, Джейкоб Барнс получил самое невероятное, заставившее полковника сказать «Вы — иностранец, англичанин (все иностранцы назывались англичанами), отдали больше чем жизнь». Он не мог больше любить физически, что определяет обречённость в отношения с Брет. Но он мог любить сердцем.
Брет также жертва войны, она в те годы работала в госпитале, и также, она прожигает жизнь. Каждый из ее поклонников введены в роман неслучайно. Вообще, противопоставление в романе важно: Париж с его развлечениями ненастоящ, искусственные, эфемерен, Памплона по-крестьянски крепка, реальна и естественна. Природа противопоставляется корриде, резкий контраст стилей двух матадоров формирует два похода к этике и эстетике боя. Точно также поклонники Брет противопоставляются друг относительно друга, выявляя грани их характеров. Кон и Барнс - оба писатели, когда-то вместе учились, но их нравственные принципы слишком различны. Роберт решает проблемы силой, избив и Джейка, и Риверо, хоть он и боксер, в душе он трус. Риверо - артист, гений корриды, но ему всего девятнадцать лет, он не был на войне и его мир чист и непорочен. Майкл - пожалуй, самый неприятный тип "Майкл, когда перейдет черту, нехорош." А черту он переходит постоянно. В размышлениях об оскорблениях Майклом Кона, Джейк приходит к мысли: "Все-таки лучше бы он этого не делал, потому что после я сам себе противен. Это и есть нравственность — если после противно? Нет, это, должно быть, безнравственность."
Джейк мучительно ищет смысл в этой нелепой жизни. "Я думал, что я за все заплатил. Не так, как женщины, платят, и платят, и платят. Не какое-то там воздаяние или кара. Просто обмен ценностями. Что-то уступаешь, а взамен получаешь что-то другое. Или работаешь ради чего-нибудь. Так или иначе за все, хоть отчасти хорошее, платишь. Многое из того, за что я платил, нравилось мне, и я хорошо проводил время. Платишь либо знанием, либо опытом, либо риском, либо деньгами. Пользоваться жизнью не что иное, как умение получать нечто равноценное истраченным деньгам и сознавать это. А получать полной ценой за свои деньги можно. Наш мир — солидная фирма." Разве это основа для здорового мировоззрения? Впрочем, герой и сам это понимает.
"Мне все равно, что такое мир. Все, что я хочу знать, — это как в нем жить. Пожалуй, если додуматься, как в нем жить, тем самым поймешь, каков он." Вот вопрос, который мучает его.

Но открытый финал оставляет надежды на то, что Джейк, всегда бывший для Брет надёжным другом, приходивший по первому зову, когда ей было трудно, преодолеет духовные муки и поиски своего поколения.
«Ах, Джейк, — говорит Брет, — как бы нам хорошо было вместе», и нам остаётся надеяться, что они исцелятся.

the sun also rises and so does Brett’s body count

This is my fourth time reading The Sun Also Rises, and my familiarity with its details allowed my mind to sort of slip between the lines.

This time through, I could see the main character, Jake Barnes, as the symbol for a 'lost generation' of men that served as soldiers during WWI. In truth, he’s a symbol for any soldier of any war that has served and been deeply affected by combat. I was able to see the pain of Jake’s injury, which is hidden just below the surface of everything that he shows to the world. It all seemed very analogous to the psychological stress of combat that plagues so many of our veterans even though we never see it. Jake moves through life with his silent handicap and in doing so constantly fights a battle between who he wanted to be and who he has become.

Along these same lines, I saw Lady Ashley, Brett, as symbolic of the benefits brought about by the sacrifices made by Jake and the veterans of WWI. She is taking the new, war-free Europe by storm and abandoning all the old traditions. She loves Jake but does not offer any sort of commitment to him or gratitude. Her grasps for the moment eliminate any sort of retrospective perspective. She is carefree and symbolizes the spirit of the Roaring 20s.

The very end of the novel suggests the incompatibility between Jake and Brett. In doing so, it also suggests the incompatibility between the carefree times of the 1920s and the solemn nature of the former soldiers that survived the war and brought those times into being.

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This is my third reading of The Sun Also Rises with each reading being about ten years apart. In looking back, I find that I latched on to a different element of Hemingway’s story each time.

In my 30's I loved the stoic code-hero character represented by Jake Barnes. Chaos happens all around Jake. His friends are a personal embarrassment who are all bad drunks. He is a respected aficionado of bullfighting in its native land and yet his fellow Spanish comrades of the sport hold his friends in contempt. And the girl that he loves dismisses him out of hand. Yet, he keeps his cool and never behaves badly. He acts out the meaning of grace under pressure.

In my 40's I loved the rustic travel elements of the novel. Hemingway brought to life the simple pleasures of sitting in a cafe in Paris. Where drinks with friends, under an awning overlooking a street, could be a complete slice of life all on its own. The old-world Spanish setting of Pamplona is made real complete with the hot sun, but also tempered with the contrasting coolness of both shade and breeze. And he assures us that staying in a modest but well-cared for hotel can evoke the feeling of being at home in a place that is far from home.

Now in my 50's I found the relationships to be my focus. An entire mix of hopelessness, jealousy, raw attraction, and desperation all plague these characters. The men in the novel all take a turn at dancing with the idealized and deeply flawed Brett Ashley. And one by one, their individualized dreams of relationship perfection are all shown to land far from reality. There is one man, however, that ultimately comes to see a life with Brett Ashley for what it would truly be. For him, the sun also rises.

The complexity of this novel combined with its brevity shows how hard Hemingway worked to produce his literary diamond; where all the fluff is cut away leaving a book that feels inviting to the imagination. As it is, it seems slightly too long for being so short of a book. As such, I wonder what I’ll find next in it while reading it in my 60's.

“I can’t stand it to think my life is going so fast and I’m not really living it.”

“Nobody ever lives their life all the way up except bull-fighters.”

I picked up this book as part of my ongoing plan to work through the Pop Chart 100 Essential Novels list. Despite what I’m about to say, I don’t really quibble with this book’s inclusion. Ernest Hemingway is going to have a book on this list, and his debut novel—with its famous depictions of the running of the bulls and bullfighting in Pamplona—is apparently his best book and a quintessential example of his writing style of short sentences and understated descriptions. The novel so full of themes and symbols—masculinity, naturalism, sex, drinking, bullfighting—that I don’t know how I got out of AP American Literature 30+ years ago without being required to read it (or at least the Cliff’s Notes version

“Don't you ever get the feeling that all your life is going by and you're not taking advantage of it? Do you realize you've lived nearly half the time you have to live already?"
"Yes, every once in a while."
"Do you know that in abou thirty- five more years we'll be dead?"
"What the hell, Robert," I said. "What the hell."
"I'm serious."
"It's one thig I don't worry about," I said.
"You ought to."
"I've had plenty to worry about one time or other. I'm through worrying."
"Well, I want to go to South America."
"Listen, Robert, going to another country doesn't make any difference. I've tried all that. You can't get away from yourself by moving from one place to another. There's nothing to that."
"But you've never been to South America."
"South America hell! If you went there the way you feel now it would be exactly the same. This is a good town. Why don't you start living your life in Paris?”

what a rather good bit of Rot that was. some of it was very good but some was utter rot. hence the rating. this is the full realization of Hemmingway's praised iceberg writing style made famous by his short story Hills like white elephants. where simple dialogue masks massive unsaid feelings just under the surface. and for a good part of the book it is very successful.

I found the scenes with lady Brett Ashley fascinating. Ashley is such a good character a modern woman, adventurous, independent, glamorous, and always the center of attention. no wonder their are so many American women named Ashley. looked it up used to be a British male name. but because of Hemmingway's female dynamo it is a very common female name. Whether she was with Jake, Mike, or Robert Cohn. the amount of feeling she put into flippant words like "Rather" is palpable. Jake Barnes even reflects about the strange way the well borne British (Ashley) talks to hint the reader to his signature literary device. i could write a whole review about the Lady Brett Ashley but moving on. Hemmingway not only tells 1)a love story from a man perspective. 2)tells a story of the wealthy for the middle or lower classes. 3)relates the everyday life of highly educated authors in the common tongue. ever ask a man what he thinks love is? your not going to get poetic words. few men are a affluent as Lord Byron or Oscar Wilde. you will get shrugs and mumbles mostly. most men express felling with actions not words. they are possessive (Cohn) Jealous (Mike) and impotent (Jake Barnes) it is clear that all three are aspect of Hemmingway himself. this is the point where a under-educated Butcher from Georgia tells you Hemmingway's place in literary history. well not quite. but while other contemporary Authors are writing books about rich people for upper class readers (Fitzgerald) or Works of geniuses for literary types (Joyce). Hemmingway writes a simple plotless novel about wealthy people in simple prose for common Americans. I could go on about literacy rates rising due to improved public education system and the American middle class having more free time to read but the popularity of the book among the masses speaks for itself. Hemmingway bridges the class barriers and gives a new demographic of reader a chance to thumb their nose at their supposed betters both Educational and financial! all that aside the sun also rises is a story you experience and are not just told. one truly feels like part of Jake Barnes exclusive group of friend traveling and drinking in Europe and that is an experience many American found amazing at the time. for when the world was just starting to open up for middle class Americans the age of American isolationist ended with WW1. Hemmingway gave them a story of nights in Paris and bullfights in Pamplona. we might be use to that by now but that was anything but boring to them.

That's the main problem though the sun also rises is plotless and boring to modern readers. it also has some problematic elements like antisemitism and sexism which were part of the times it was written. The sun also rises is a huge part of the American literary culture. so it's one of those classics you should read even if it's a rather plotless bit of rot! so give a great 20th century writer a little props. and raise a glass to Ernest Hemmingway!

I pored toga što mi je u nekim trenucima bila dosadna, knjiga mi se poprilično dopala.

Radnja romana prvih stotinak i više stranica izgleda otprilike ovako (dok ne pročitate nastavak pa shvatite o čemu je zapravo reč): Izadjemo iz hotela, odemo na zabavu, popijemo piće, odemo na večeru pa i tu popijemo još poneko. Vratimo se u hotel, popijemo piće. Onda odemo u Španiju, budemo u hotelu, večeramo i popijemo ... pa u krug.

Sa druge strane, razumljivo zbog čega je to tako.
Roman je o grupi ljudi koji su deo tzv. Izgubljene generacije, onih koje je Prvi svetski rat fizički i emotivno uništio i sada imaju problema da se vrate u normalu i da žive život kakav bi trebali da žive.
Bret, Džejk i ostali likovi u ovom romanu putuju Evropom pokušavajući da se povežu sa ljudima, provode puno vremena na zabavama, ispijajući alkohol i uveravajući sebe da se dobro zabavljaju, ali na kraju uvek završavaju sami i razočarani.

Početak osrednji, ali su zato poslednje stranice u mom srcu ostavile dubok trag.

Drunken, rich, idiotic expatriots dissatisfied with their lot in life and severely depressed by WW1 travel around Europe after the war and are miserable to the point where I want to scream. URGH.

I seriously adored Hemingway's The Old Man and the Sea and therefore happily agreed to read more of his. I am also not only aware of when this book was written and what it is about, but also of what the author is said to have tried to accomplish. BUT IT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. This was SO bad, I barely have words for it.

No, I don't much care for the fact that Jacob got his testicles shot off and is therefore the embodiment of an impotent or lost generation. That is no reason to make ME miserable as well. *lol*

The title definitely had a hopeful undertone to it (in my opinion), which I liked once I knew roughly what the book would be about, but while reading the book I discovered that to me, every single character here was irresponsible, miserable, insufferable, egocentric, whiney, stupid, usually drunk, ignorant, depressed and many other things but there was NOTHING that made me feel sympathy. Nothing whatsoever. No redeeming qualities either.

And don't get me started on the anti-semitism and homophobia!

I seethed while reading this book and seriously asked myself why Hemingway would choose to portray the characters like this. Because I know that he himself had been an expatriot and dissatisfied. So was this a form of self-loathing? Was he just a depressed, old man, hateful about everything and towards everyone in the world?

Anyway, definitely not a book I want to remember and I'm glad it's over, no matter how much it is praised throughout literary society.

The Sun Also Rises, Ernest Hemingway

The Sun Also Rises is a 1926 novel written by American author Ernest Hemingway about a group of American and British expatriates who travel from Paris to the Festival of San Fermín in Pamplona to watch the running of the bulls and the bullfights. An early and enduring modernist novel.

The Sun Also Rises, the brilliant novel, which established Ernest as a great, and stylish writer, and one of the most prominent novelists of his time.

The pleasant and sad story of a few Americans, and a young Englishman, displaced from their homeland, living in Paris, and going on a tour of "Pamplona" in Spain, this novel is also have been a fateful one in the formation of Hemingway's unique style.

تاریخ نخستین خوانش: روز بیستم ماه اکتبر سال 2012میلادی

عنوان: خورشید همچنان می‌دمد؛ نویسنده: ارنست همینگوی؛ مترجم همایون مقدم؛ 1333، در242ص؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، سازمان کتابهای جیبی، 1340؛ در263ص؛ موضوع داستانهای نویسندگان ایالات متحده آمریکا - سده 20م

مترجم: عرفان قانعی فرد؛ تهران، نگاه سبز، 1379؛ در 243ص؛

مترجم: احسان لامع؛ تهران، نگاه، 1389؛ در 308ص؛ شابک: 9789643515683؛

خورشید همچنان می‌دمد، نخستین رمان درخشان، از نگاره های «ارنست همینگوی» بوده که ایشان را، در جایگاه نویسنده‌ ای بزرگوار، دارای سبک، و از برجسته‌ ترین رمان‌نویسان روزگار خود، استوار کرده است؛ سرگذشت خوشایند، و اندوهبار چند «آمریکایی»، و «انگیسی» جوان، آواره از میهن خویش است، که در «پاریس» زندگی می‌کنند، و برای گشت‌ و گذار به «پامپلونا»ی «اسپانیا»، می‌روند، این رمان بلندای سرنوشت‌ سازی در شکلگیری سبک یگانه ی «همینگوی» نیز بوده است

رمان، بازگو کننده‌ ی رابطه‌ ی تلخ و ژرف و پیچیده‌ ی «لیدی برت اشلی» ثروتمند و پر زرق‌ و برق، و «جیک بارنز» زخم‌ خورده از جنگ است؛ در کشاکش ورشکستگی اخلاقی، فروپاشی معنوی، عشق‌های ناکام، و انگارهای ویرانگر، که روشنگر آن سال‌‌های پر تب‌ و تاب بوده، با توانایی و زیبایی خیره‌ کننده‌ ای، سرگذشت «نسل گمشده» را، روایت می‌کند؛ در بیشتر نظرسنجی‌هایی که در سال‌های بگذشته در جهان «انگلیسی‌» زبان، انجام شده، کتاب «خورشید هم‌چنان می‌دمد»، به عنوان یکی از پنجاه، یا صد رمان برجسته‌ ی سده ی بیستم میلادی برگزیده شده است؛

نقل از متن: («رابرت کوهن» زمانی قهرمان میان وزن مشت‌زنی بود؛ خیال نکنید این عنوان روی من، تاثیر زیادی گذاشته است؛ ولی از نظر «کوهن» خیلی اهمیت داشت؛ او به هیچ‌چیز مشت‌زنی نمی‌بالید، و راستش از آن بدش هم می‌آمد؛ اما آن را با دقت و مشقت فراوان یاد گرفته بود، تا در برابر حس حقارت، و شرمندگی، نسبت به رفتاری که، با او در مقام «یهودی» می‌شد، مقابله کند؛ او وقتی می‌دانست، می‌تواند هر کسی را که در برابرش قد علم می‌کند، با ضربه‌ ای کارش را تمام کند، به آرامش درونی می‌رسید؛ و چون پسری بسیار نازنین، و خجالتی بود، به جز باشگاه در هیچ جا با کسی مبارزه نمی‌کرد؛ او شاگرد ارشد «اسپایدر کلی» بود؛ «اسپایدر کلی» به همگی شاگردان جوان خود یاد داده بود تا مثل سبک وزن‌ها مبارزه کنند؛ مهم نبود که صدوپنج پوند باشند، یا دویست و پنج پوند؛ اما به نظر می‌رسید که او «کوهن» را برای هر موقعیتی آماده می‌کرد؛ او خیلی فرز بود؛ کارش چنان خوب بود که «اسپایدر»، فوراً او را به مسابقه‌ های زیادی فرستا��؛ همیشه خدا هم دماغش را روی صورتش صاف می‌کردند؛ اینکار باعث شد تا بی‌رغبتی «کوهن» به مشت‌زنی بیش‌تر شود؛ ولی به نوعی غریب، در درونش ارضاء می‌شد، و این امر به یقین زخم دماغش را بهبود می‌بخشید؛ آخرین سالی که «در پرینستون» بود، به مطالعه زیاد روی آورد و عینکی شد؛ تا آنجا که من یادم می‌آید هرگز کسی از هم دوره‌ های او را ندیده‌ ام که او را یادشان باشد؛ آن‌ها حتا یادشان نمی‌آمد که او قهرمان میان وزن مشت‌زنی است

من به آدم‌های ساده و رک، به خصوص وقتی که داستان‌هایشان عین هم باشد، اعتمادی ندارم و همواره بدگمان بودم که «رابرت کوهن» حتا قهرمان میان وزن مشت زنی بوده باشد؛ شاید اسبی دماغ او را له کرده، یا مادرش از چیزی ترسیده بود؛ ممکن است وقتی تازه پا می‌گرفته، به جایی خورده؛ ولی آخر سر کسی را پیدا کردم، که از زبان «اسپایدر کلی» صحت موضوع را تایید کرد؛ «اسپایدر کلی» نه تنها «کوهن» را فراموش نکرده بود، اغلب جویا بود که چه اتفاقی برایش افتاده است)؛ پایان نقل

تاریخ بهنگام رسانی 16/10/1399هجری خورشیدی؛ 22/07/1400هجری خورشیدی؛ ا. شربیانی

There will always be a special place in my heart for this book. It's easily one of my favorite books of all time. Definitely my favorite Hemingway book (it's quite different from the rest). No, it's not perfect. Yes, it gets a bit boring in the middle when its main focus is on bull fighting. But for the most part, the story is funny and wonderful and quite touching. The dialogue is so alive, it practically has a pulse. Nobody writes dialogue like that anymore. It's snappy, fast, witty, honest... and there's a lot of it. I could read chapters 3 and 4 of this book every day for the rest of my life and not get tired of them because of how much I love the dialogue and the character interactions.

The characters are fantastic and entertaining to boot. Even the less likeable ones are quite amusing. And I just love the chemistry between Jake and Brett. So well written. When you watch a movie, it's easy to detect if the characters/actors have good chemistry or not because it tends to be more of a physical thing. But in a book, it's not so easy. And they aren't an obvious match either. Jake is kind of that typical, cool guy from back in the day with a sarcastic attitude who dishes out sarcastic one-liners like a pro. Brett is a beautiful, sophisticated woman who, on the surface is the outgoing sort who eats up her wild party life and loves the attention it brings her. She loves to be doted on and seems to live her life like she must be out and about at all times, doing fun things. But there's more depth to her than that, and for the most part, you only see it when she's with Jake. Especially when she's alone with Jake. Which only happens a few brief times in the story. Then you realize, hmm...maybe her outgoing ways are really more of purposeful distraction.

I love tragic love stories. When two people feel a deep, heartbreaking love for one another, yet can never truly be together. At least not in the way they want. Not in this lifetime, due to their particular circumstances. In this case, she's married. He's handicapped. Yet, their madly in love (which is obvious, without either of them ever actually saying so to one another or anyone else for that matter), even if they aren't brave enough to do anything about it, so they settle for friendship and do their best to distract themselves with reality, so they don't have to think about it. That's real life. It happens all the time.

I could easily feel the sexual tension between Brett and Jake whenever they were together on the page. And that's because of how it was written. Their connection wasn't shoved down my throat. It was in their body language, and most of all, what they didn't say. But sometimes it was what they did say. And that was always perfect too. It was always, just enough to convey their emotions. Lots of subtlety and talking their way around the emotional elephant in the room, which is always a good thing in my opinion.

Also, I love love love the ending. Love the last two or three pages. Love the last paragraph. Love the last line. It may not be a storybook happy ending, but if I wrote this book, it's exactly how I would have ended it too. So much left unsaid. So much beautiful sadness lingering in the air between them. And even right before that, when they are sitting down to have wine/lunch together, nervously fumbling over their words in the last couple pages... don't even get me started. There's so much heartache on display in that one scene (despite them both acting very upbeat), without the characters uttering a single word about how they actually feel. Again, so true to life!

I completely understand why people might not agree with me on any or even most of what I've said in this review. I've read plenty of bad reviews for this book. But for those who do... For those who have been there and experienced a taste of this in your own life... Then you know where I'm coming from. There's real love in this story. And love can be sad. And it can be beautiful. And sometimes it's both. And that is what this book captures perfectly. Hemingway's debut novel (written in 1926!), and for me, he never wrote a better one. It feels very fresh, exciting and independent like when Quentin Tarantino released "Reservoir dogs" and "Pulp Fiction" in the 90's. Or a french new wave movie from the 60's such as Godard's "Pierrott Le fou."

So for anyone who has tried to read Hemingway in the past and just couldn't get into his stories, I don't blame you at all. He's one of my favorite authors, but his books are not the easiest to read. Particularly his heavier books like, "For whom the bell tolls." He has a few that I just can't get through because I lose interest. But don't let that stop you from giving this one a shot. It's unlike anything else that he ever wrote. And if it's not for you, then no big deal. There's a million other books to read. But if it is, I promise you won't ever forget it.