ConSentiency Universe #2

The Dosadi Experiment

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Beyond the God Wall

Generations of a tormented human-alien people, caged on a toxic planet, conditioned by constant hunger and war-this is the Dosadi Experiment, and it has succeeded too well. For the Dosadi have bred for Vengeance as well as cunning, and they have learned how to pass through the shimmering God Wall to exact their dreadful revenge on the Universe that created them . . .

320 pages, Mass Market Paperback

First published January 1,1977

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Format
320 pages, Mass Market Paperback
Published
September 16, 2002 by Tor Books
ISBN
9780765342539
ASIN
0765342537
Language
English
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  • Jorj X. McKie

    Jorj X. Mckie

    Jorj X. McKie is the leading saboteur extraordinary in the Bureau of Sabotage (BuSab), an organization found in The Dosadi Experiment as well as two earlier short stories. He is described as a squat and ugly man of Pacific Islander ancestry, with green ey...

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Franklin Patrick Herbert Jr. was an American science fiction author best known for the 1965 novel Dune and its five sequels. Though he became famous for his novels, he also wrote short stories and worked as a newspaper journalist, photographer, book reviewer, ecological consultant, and lecturer.
The Dune saga, set in the distant future, and taking place over millennia, explores complex themes, such as the long-term survival of the human species, human evolution, planetary science and ecology, and the intersection of religion, politics, economics and power in a future where humanity has long since developed interstellar travel and settled many thousands of worlds. Dune is the best-selling science fiction novel of all time, and the entire series is considered to be among the classics of the genre.

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April 16,2025
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The Dosadi Experiment by Frank Herbert

Did you know that Frank Herbert wrote a book about a planet with such an extreme environment that it breeds a superior race of humanity that is highly disciplined, smarter, and tougher than the rest of humanity? This population has access to life extension and if turned loose on the rest of the galaxy, will overturn everything.

You probably have, but this is the other one.

The Dosadi Experiment is set in Herbert's Consentiency universe. "Universe" is used loosely since there was just this book and "Whipping Star." Both featured Jorg X. McKie, Sabotageur Extraordinary of the Bureau of Sabotage. BuSab was created to throw a monkey wrench into the government and thereby protect individual liberty.

We could use one of those now.

The Consentiency is populated by a variety of interesting and quirky aliens, including the frog-like Gowachin. They have kidnapped a mixed population of humans and Gowachin, which they have kept isolated on the poisonous planet of Dosadi for generations. The habitable area of Dosadi amounts to a few square miles inhabited by millions. Competition is intense.

Now, the lid is about to blow off the Dosadi experiment.

Because he was trained in the Gowachin's perverse legal system, McKie is tasked to go to Dosadi to investigate what the Gowachin were doing.

The story comes to a head in a courtroom scene where death is on the line.

I read this in its Galaxy serialization. I enjoyed it. The story mostly holds up, although there is a bit much of Herbert's tendency to make his characters appear far more insightful than they actually are.

Nonetheless, if you have a choice between the 79th instalment of the Dune saga - The Master Bakers of Dune - or this one, give this one a shot.
April 16,2025
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I was a bit surprised at first to find this book has such mixed reviews on here. I first read it as a teenager and it made a big impression on me. I have just recently finished re-reading it and if anything am more awe-struck than before. Unlike last time I also tracked down and read Herbert's earlier ConSentiency writings (The Tactful Saboteur and Whipping Star) which are far more amateurish than The Dosadi Experiment but help to fill in the background.

Herbert likes characters who are super smart and are alert/aware enough to handle themselves in tricky situations/conversations where normal mortals would have come seriously unstuck. As a result, some of the set pieces and conversations require the reader's full attention. Maybe this accounts for the polarisation of reactions to the book. Where some are gripped and enthralled others might be frustrated by being made to work too hard.

But that is Herbert's style. If you take him as you find him his works are right up there. The Dosadi Experiment in particular features an extraordinary premise with extraordinary male and female leads to match. It was fascinating following McKie having to get up to speed very quickly to be able to survive alongside the hardship-hardened Dosadi, becoming more Dosadi than the Dosadi, and his relationship with Keila Jedrik. Then there is the intriguing Gowachin legal system. Who in their right mind would want to be a Legum at the Gowachin bar? Other than the redoubtable McKie of course...
April 16,2025
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I suspect that some of my confusion with this book came from reading it out of order. However, I've lived through similar problems before and (in many of those cases) have been able to enjoy the book far more than I was able to with this book. Partly that's due to Herbert's habit of simply making up words and then expecting the reader to figure out what they mean through context (sometimes over hundreds of pages), however in this case it was more to do with some oddly aggressive comments about homosexuality that really just don't scan. Its interesting seeing Herbert play with some of the elements that made DUNE such an amazing book, however those interesting moments weren't worth the price of admission for me on this one.
April 16,2025
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It was fine, but it's no Dune.

I know that's kind of a stupid review to give, because obviously one of his books selected at random probably isn't going to be as good as his award-winning, best-selling, incredibly famous work, but maybe it's still the most relevant thing to say, since I also imagine that's the most likely reason anyone else is considering giving this one a try.

There were a few interesting ideas and fun bits, but the whole thing just fell kind of flat.
April 16,2025
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After the whipping star book, I was intrigued in the second one of the series. I was anticipating Fanny Mae to be integral part of the story, which she was not. Sometimes reading this book felt like being brought by force to a new country and being expected to understand everything. I did find some enjoyment in the intrigue of the why, but the how was ambiguous. Maybe I am one that like to understand things which is why I was disappointed by this. As a reference, I did not fully understand the ending, which was highly unsatisfying to me.
April 16,2025
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Interesting cross between an espionage thriller and a legal procedural. Herbert creates for us an interesting universe with distinctive races, and even a few with God-like powers, or is it technology? Jorj X. McKie is a human operative of the Bureau of Sabotage, charged with investigating a planet which is believed to be a massive sociological experiment. Seems fairly straightforward, but nothing ever is, really.

I caught a few nods to Dune,. which may or may not be actually there.
April 16,2025
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1 star is my standard rating for DNF. I'm not a professional reviewer, don't waste my time.

I will admit that I should have read book #1 first. I picked this one up after "The Spice Must Flow" mentioned The Dosadi Experiment as one of Herbert's best non-Dune book.
Apparently I missed a lot. Having read a summary of Whipping Star, the most incomprehensible parts of this book might have been better explained by starting at the beginning. But it certainly wasn't an endorsement to go back and find out what I missed.

I hated this book less once I realized my mistake, and reflected back if it would have made more sense if I just ignored all the Whipping Star bits. Sadly, no, the explanation of what/who/where the Dosadi are just didn't come together before I decided I was just reading gibberish. I guess this book just wasn't my vibe.
April 16,2025
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While I think I may have preferred the previous ConSentiency Universe novel more than The Dosadi Experiment, but that may be more because I prefer linguistics and math-crazy plus-dimensional aliens over most other ideas.

However. This novel is pretty damn fascinating on its own, but for completely different reasons. I don't normally see hard-SF novels revolving around Alien Law. Or economics. Or psychology. Or a whole world that is a social and biological experiment writ very, very large.

This is Frank Herbert, after all. When he runs with ideas, he really runs with them, doubling down and throwing in ever more complicated twists and complications and worldbuilding that is always on target and propels the main plot.

I DO believe that there are a few flow issues with this novel, but not serious ones. I DO think the themes of overpopulation pressures, male/female and identity fiction, writ in alien biologies, alien psychology, or the results of the pressures of the experiment, itself, is done VERY well.

I see tones of the male/female question from Dune and major overpopulation issues explored by Silverberg and Brunner and PKD. Herbert is very aware of the SF conversation going on and, in my humble opinion, attacks it in some of the very smartest ways.

When I judge novels by Frank Herbert, I judge them by his own novels, not by the full SF field. He really belongs in a level of his own.
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