Ok, but this was truly so much better than the Iliad or the Odyssey. The story presented here has a unique charm that sets it apart. Aeneas, he is the only main hero from an epic that I didn't despise with every fiber of my being. In fact, his character is quite interesting and complex. He shows qualities of bravery, determination, and a sense of duty. While Hector in the Iliad was also a character I adored, Aeneas has his own appeal. He faces numerous challenges and obstacles on his journey, yet he perseveres. His story is one of adventure, sacrifice, and growth. It makes for a captivating read that keeps you engaged from beginning to end.
Spontaneously, I rate this book as 3 stars.
I leave the rating open-ended because I don't think I have done justice to the book.
The translation by Neufers reads rhythmically and is linguistically wonderful.
Vergil inserts a monumental expansion into the epic, which greatly detracts from my reading pleasure and tires me.
At the moment, I can't contribute more to this book. A lack of historical awareness and political ignorance are a poor foundation for the Aeneid.
All that remains for me is the simple subjective perception: not my book, or perhaps I'll come back to it sometime.
Evo – topos neizrecivosti: It's impossible to use all possible superlatives here, they wouldn't be enough to convey what the "Aeneid" is all about. Encountering classic works truly rejuvenates a person – it represents a necessary reset to touch upon modernity. And truly good translations, as is the case here, extend modernity to antiquity. Marjanca Pakiž has managed to make Vergil sound like someone very close, with amazing dedication to ensure that modernization is both supported, authentic, and infinitely elegant. Reading this edition is a brilliant adornment of the Roman culture, a recapitulation of mythology and ancient history, and a style manual, full of adventures and challenges. The experience would not be half as good if there wasn't just, of course, an excellent translation where the hexameter is faithfully respected from the first to the last line, but also exceptional translator's notes, useful, not burdensome, erased, and, I dare say, wittily spiritual – especially since Pakiž doesn't shy away from almost personally colored evaluations, as well as critical considerations of some inconsistencies in the work, which make reading even more interesting. Therefore, all 767 notes form a kind of cryptobook in relation to the "Aeneid", which multiplies rewards for all the dedicated. And let's not even talk about how many times I looked at the geographical map that comes with this edition! This is, then, reading with full combat and travel gear – and, to make things even better – accessible! Because Pakiž has neither overestimated nor underestimated the reader – whoever wants to approach Vergil will be able to do so according to their own measure, but with rarely valuable help. Truly, such a precious edition rarely appears in any culture and must absolutely be recognized and welcomed.
Since the reading took a long time, my notebook has been significantly filled. And a brief overview of the notes would be overwhelming, so I will now make some kind of summary of summaries. First of all, a very general impression: Vergil is an epic poet, but with delicate lyrical reflections. As much as I enjoyed the stories, so much did all the lyrical flights and poetic turns delight me, which make even the harshness in a special way tender. What is especially striking, and what someone could know even before reading, is that the "Aeneid", in relation to what is better known to us, Homer's eyes, is the gaze of the defeated. And not an ordinary gaze, but light and triumph, founding for understanding the特殊性 of a community. Hence Vergil communicates both with the then moment, so with Homer, but also, like every epic poet, with eternity. Otherwise, it is often overlooked that between Homer and Vergil there is a span of, by God, eight centuries! Imagine if today we compare some modern novel with something from the 12th century? Time shrinks.
Review of some favorite moments, by songs:
I) Aeolus' towering cave and Neptune calming the winds:
“He spoke and with his words he stilled the seething tumult,
scattered the piles of clouds and restored the sun's light.” (57)
II) Cassandra is the most convincing least believable prophetess in the history of prophecy.
Aeneas dreams of Hector's shade.
III) Gushing – blood from green editions. Aeneas meets the dead Polydorus.
At the foot of Etna: The Greek who begs the Trojans to take him in.
Polyphemus on the mountain without that one eye of his. (168)
IV) Dido is eaten up by love. Conflicts and encouragements of Juno and Venus.
Dido's curse because of unrequited love:
“(...) I will be far away, but with dark fire
I will follow you. And when cold death parts my soul from my body,
I will be with you as a ghost! You will pay the penalty!
I know, for news will reach me even to the deepest underworld.” (192)
The mystery of the Ethiopian sorceress.
Dido's suicide.
V) The race of ships and the prize – the golden cloak with an engraving.
VI) The descent to the underworld!
And the knowledge that Hades is not final – that souls go up and then return to bodies. Metempsychosis! (292)
VII) The escalation of war. (Until this moment, the "Aeneid" was more similar to the "Odyssey", from this point it becomes the "Iliad".)
VIII) The river Tiber speaks in its own name. (358)
But also: “the waters and the woods wonder: you have not seen until now that such ships shine
and that ships are so colorful.” (360)
In the "Aeneid", sunrises are very common, but also deeds.
Venus in bed convinces Vulcan to help with weapons. Aeneas' shield. (379) And on it all of Italian history and all of Roman future.
IX) Nisus and Euryalus infiltrate among Turnus' soldiers.
X) The greater gods: Jupiter is angry.
Description: “And among them is, behold, also strong Venus' care:
the Dardanian boy, and he has revealed his beautiful head and it shines –
like the twinkling light of a jewel in dark gold
on a diadem or some other precious thing, or like what shines
from a dark chest, of terebinth wood, skillfully
inserted part of ivory. The boy's neck is very white and
his hair flows down, and soft gold is gathered.” (446)
Aeneas gets angry. And he also silences the head of the slain. (467)
Juno intervenes: creates a ghost in the likeness of Aeneas so that Turnus can escape.
XI) Camilla as one of the most impressive amazons – baring her breasts in battle – heroic death.
XII) The final battle: Aeneas vs. Turnus.
Venus with a cry gives Aeneas a herb, to help.
Comparison: general unrest as when a shepherd finds bees in a hollow rock. (558)
\\"Fortune favors the brave.\\"
The Aeneid, this immortal epic poem born from the genius of Publius Vergilius Maro, is considered one of the foundational classical works of world literature. It is directly related to the Greek bards, especially Homer, but as a historical continuation of the Trojan War, it also has connections to some of the tragedies of Aeschylus and Sophocles.
Vergil, this incomparable poet, shares two very interesting details with the Czech genius Franz Kafka. His magnum opus remains unfinished after eleven years of gestation, to which he dedicated the last years of his life, even when he was very ill. In the same way that Kafka did not finish his novels \\"The Castle\\" or \\"The Trial,\\" Vergil leaves the end of the Aeneid truncated when death surprises him at the age of 51.
On the other hand, he also shares with Kafka a decision that was disobeyed: Kafka, already seriously ill with tuberculosis, asks his friend and executor Max Brod to burn all his work. An order that Brod disobeys, bequeathing to us all that we read today of this author.
The same thing happens with Varius, a friend and also executor of Vergil, who on his deathbed asks him to burn everything written about the Aeneid, a poem that the poet was accustomed to reciting to Emperor Augustus.
When one reads the Aeneid, one knows in advance that if one really wants to have a global idea of what happens there, one should, if possible, read Hesiod's Theogony beforehand, which explains how the different gods of Olympus were born and how, after relating to mortals, they engendered the different heroes of the poems.
In this way, we learn that Aeneas is the fruit of the union of the goddess Venus (or Aphrodite for the Greeks) with his father Anchises, just as Achilles is born from the union of the goddess Thetis with the mortal Peleus, while with Ulysses this does not happen, although it is important to clarify the intimate relationship that the hero of the Odyssey has with Pallas Athena.
The gods always intervene before a possibly unfortunate destiny to change things, and this will also happen in the Aeneid, since Aeneas is constantly protected by Venus at different times, from the flight from Troy to the arrival on the shores of Hesperia, as Italy was anciently called, until the combats begin against the Latins under the order of the leader Turnus, who in turn will have the support of another goddess, Juno, who will generate in him and in his subjects the constant violence and animosity to go to war, as the god Ares (Mars) does with Hector in the Iliad.
Juno, jealous of the Trojans, will do the impossible to prevent Aeneas from founding a new Troy in Italy, also because she was slighted by the mortal Paris, who chose Venus, and by the amorous slight that Ganymede inflicts on her with a Trojan prince.
But Venus is not the only goddess who will be part of all this game of betrayals, discords, and battles. Other gods such as Jupiter (Zeus) or Vulcan, who, in the same way that he did with Ulysses, will forge the armor and shield of Aeneas for the battle with Turnus, will have a direct incidence.
Thus, everything will be prepared for war. But first, we must clarify that the Aeneid consists of two well-marked parts.
In the first place, after the destruction of Ilion, as Troy was also known, Aeneas escapes with his father Anchises on his back and his son Ascanius by the hand, losing in it his mortal wife, Creusa. From there, he will arrive in Carthage, where he will have a tormented affair with the queen, Dido. These events have a background that will bring more misfortunes to the Teucrian hero.
The escape of Aeneas towards Italy has the same tenor as that of Ulysses returning to Ithaca in the Odyssey. Let us remember that there are several poems and tragedies in which the Odyssean returns after the fall of Troy are narrated. The same happens with the return of Agamemnon in the tragedy of Aeschylus and in the Oresteia, narrated by the same bard.
After living through the worst vicissitudes, the persecution of Juno, the death of many of his warriors, being subjected to storms that destroy his ships, he arrives in Italy, and it is here where the second part begins, which has in the narrative a very close similarity to the Iliad, when the Latins enter into war with the Teucrians. The last four books of the twelve that the Aeneid contains narrate these warlike events.
It is essential to have read the Iliad, since the description of the battles will be practically the same as those of Homer's poem. At times, the way Vergil describes it is so cruel that it seems that the reader is seeing that violence with which the Latins and Teucrians massacre each other on the battlefield. The blood splatters everywhere on all those who are killed by their enemy, the spears pierce every chest they find, and heads are split to the neck or men are decapitated without the slightest compassion.
It seems that Nikolai Gogol was inspired by the Iliad and the Aeneid to tell us so explicitly and so similarly what happens in the confrontation between the Ukrainian Cossacks and the Poles in his novel Taras Bulba, which shows the inspiration that poets like Homer or Vergil generated in the great writers of the modern era.
Another very important aspect to take into account is that the axis and the center of the Aeneid reside in book VI, when Aeneas descends to the Underworld to meet with Anchises, his deceased father. In the same way that when Ulysses descends to Hades, Aeneas must cross the different places of the Underworld, as does the great Dante Alighieri, who for much of the Divine Comedy chooses precisely Vergil for that journey. No one more suitable than the Latin poet to accompany him on that dark path.
Unlike what is narrated in the Divine Comedy, Vergil explains to us how the Underworld is in a more reduced way and as if all the places were very close to each other.
Aeneas is accompanied by the prophetess Sibyl, who shows him and explains what each thing is in the Avernus and what happens with the souls that are there.
What Dante will describe with all the luxury of details is shown to Aeneas quickly, such is the case of Charon, the boatman who transports the souls across the river Acheron, the Stygian lagoon, and the lake of Lethe, where Aeneas must also enter to forget part of what he has lived.
Already in books XI and XII, the final battle is developed, and it gives the sensation that Vergil draws a comparison with the Iliad to describe the most important confrontation of all between Aeneas and Turnus, as Homer did with Achilles and Hector.
It is clear the feeling of homage to Homer as well as the inspiration that the Greek poet infused him to continue the story in his own poem.
Comparing the Iliad and the Odyssey, both Aeneas and Achilles face their adversary with the object of avenging the death of Patroclus in the case of Achilles against Hector, and the death of Pallas at the hands of Turnus in what concerns Aeneas.
Unfortunately, and since the Aeneid remains inconclusive, we will never know what happens after this confrontation, of which I will not reveal the winner to protect that reader who wants to embark on the adventure of the brave and valiant warrior Aeneas, whose deeds have been immortalized in the gold of world literature thanks to Vergil, one of the fathers of literature.
So it was the will of the Fates...
A pesar que el relato en sí no es tan interesante o épico como los de Homero, Virgilio logra un relato bien logrado y muy interesante. Virgilio's work has its own charm and significance. It presents a unique perspective on the events and characters.
Es bueno también conocer cómo explican los romanos el desenlace de algunos griegos, adaptado claro está a su realidad. By understanding the Roman interpretations, we can gain a deeper understanding of their culture and beliefs.
Es una de las pocas obras épicas en Roma que conozco por lo que el valor que tiene aún se eleva más, todo para dotar a Augusto de un origen divino. This work holds great value not only as an epic but also as a means to glorify Augustus.
Lamentablemente esta obra fue inconclusa. However, the fact that it is incomplete does not detract from its overall importance and influence. It still remains a significant piece of literature in the history of Rome.
Review of the Yale University Press (YUP) paperback edition (2009*) of the YUP hardcover (2008) translated from the Latin language original Aenēis (19 BCE)
I truly relished the readability and the straightforward modern language of Sarah Ruden's recent translation of The Gospels (2021). This was sufficient to prompt me to explore several of her other translation works, several of which I have now located via the library. This earlier 2008 Aenied translation has now been superseded by an expanded and updated 2021 edition, which I have yet to obtain.
While the 2008 translation is indeed readable and in plain language, it is severely lacking in additional explanatory material. Ruden has the great advantage of providing a line-by-line equivalent to the original, unlike other translators who tend to go on at length. However, Ruden's translation is in free verse and certainly cannot replace Dryden's rhymed version. Ruden's Translator's Preface is quite brief, less than 5 pages, and the Glossary is only 12 pages. That may seem like a reasonable amount, but every time I looked up someone, they weren't listed, as it is "only the most important characters and places". My only convenient comparison is my own copy of the Robert Fitzgerald 1983 translation, which has a 15-page Postscript and a 24-page Glossary, which is definitely more informative and complete. Hopefully, Ruden's 2021 edition will expand on these areas.
In terms of the shock value of any 21st-century modernisms used by Ruden, I was really only struck by the Tuscan Arruns' vow to kill the amazon Voscian leader Camilla, who had been triumphing over the Trojans and their allies:
"... I want no arms, no trophy -
No spoils at all. I'll get my glory elsewhere.
If I can strike this bitch down, I'll return
Gladly obscure to the cities of my homeland." - The Aenied, Book 11 Lines 790-793 Ruden (2008)
Compare Dryden and Fitzgerald:
"Nor spoils, nor triumph, from the fact I claim,
But with my future actions trust my fame.
Let me, by stealth, this female plague o’ercome,
And from the field return inglorious home." - The Aenied, Book 11 Lines ?? Dryden (1697)
"... I want no spoils,
No trophy of a beaten girl. My actions
Elsewhere will bring me honour. May this dire
Scourge of battle perish, when hit by me.
Then to the cities of my ancestors
With no pretence of glory I'll return." - The Aenied, Book 11 Lines 1077-1082 Fitzgerald (1983)
Overall, this is a [4], but more because of the lack of extra material. If you are okay with looking up all of that information online yourself, then there is no problem. I'm going to reserve a possible future [5] rating for when I am able to obtain Ruden's 2021 revision.
Let me give this warning from the beginning; in order to truly enjoy and understand this book as much as possible, it is essential that you have read the Iliad and the Odyssey. Approximately two years ago, when I said "I want to read the Aeneid," @hinoandthebooks gave this warning, and I am infinitely grateful to them for all their contributions to my mythological journey. Because the first six parts of the 12-part book are based on Odysseus' journey, and the remaining six parts are based on the Iliad.
Coming to the book itself - although I'm not entirely sure what to say about such a work - what you are reading is actually the story of the founding of Rome written by Vergil at the request of Augustus, based on Homer's works. So, it's not very easy to read, to be honest. Because the story, which begins as a continuation of the Trojan War, requires you to be familiar with Greek mythology and also know or learn its counterpart in Roman mythology. Yes, there is a dictionary at the back of the book, but since I got tired of constantly turning to the back and some things were missing due to the brevity of the notes, I simply used Google (and with the help of @fran.kub's notes) to progress. Also, having some knowledge about the founding of Rome and the Julio-Claudian period will enhance your enjoyment in terms of the prophecies verbalized in the encounters that take place on Aeneas' shield or behind the Styx River.
At this point, I saw the benefit of Google searches and secondary sources during my recent reading of Roman mythology with Terra Nostra and then Ben, Claudius. Of course, these are not enough to learn and understand the entire story and all the heroes. Especially when it comes to the battle formations, at a certain point, I chose to stop searching for "who is who" and focus on the main theme. Because after a while, the sides and the names became a jumble, and I gave up. In short, the Aeneid is not one of the books that I can say "everyone should read." If mythology really interests you and the taste of the Iliad and the Odyssey still lingers in your mouth, then continue from here. Because aside from the fact that many concepts change at once - of course, we are infinitely indebted to Türkân Uzel for bringing such a work into our language - but you very much feel the lack of the footnotes, the preface, or the dictionaries that Azra Erhat added with great effort and made understandable with the thought that "everyone should learn the story and history of these lands" in the Iliad and the Odyssey.
Of course, this sentence should not be misunderstood. Yes, Azra Erhat's place is special in the hearts of many mythology lovers, but while the Aeneid still has not been translated into some languages, and it has been readable in our lands for years thanks to Ms. Türkân, that's why I never refrain from putting the book aside and doing research. I only mentioned it to express the difference in the reading process of the book from the Iliad and the Odyssey. I, especially after November, when the bad books left their mark, read it with great admiration, sometimes with my eyes watering from its beauty, but every time I noticed that my characters were starting to merge with each other, I would take a break and spread it out over time. But I can't say that I will read it again, I never have the courage. After this point, on my path - when the effect created by the Aeneid subsides a little more, that is, probably in 2024 - I will continue my path with Christopher Marlowe's The Tragical History of Dido, Queen of Carthage and Ursula K. Le Guin's Lavinia.