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April 17,2025
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"Me imagino a muchos niños pequeños jugando en un gran campo de centeno y todo. Miles de niños y nadie allí para cuidarlos, nadie grande, eso es, excepto yo. Y yo estoy al borde de un profundo precipicio. Mi misión es agarrar a todo niño que vaya a caer en el precipicio. Quiero decir, si algún niño echa a correr y no mira por dónde va, tengo que hacerme presente y agarrarlo. Eso es lo que haría todo el día. Sería el encargado de agarrar a los niños en el centeno. Sé que es una locura; pero es lo único que verdaderamente me gustaría ser. Reconozco que es una locura."

Luego del soberano aburrimiento al que me había sometido con su libro “Nueve Cuentos”, me había propuesto no leer nunca más a J.D. Salinger. Los cuentos me habían despertado muy poco interés, salvo dos y un tercero que rescato, pero en líneas generales el libro me pareció flojo y las historias contadas me daban la sensación de no ir para ningún lado.
De todos modos, recapacitando, me di cuenta que estaba equivocado en mi forma de pensar. No todos los libros que escriben los autores tienen el mismo tenor y suele pasar que a veces escriben libros que ni a ellos mismos terminan gustándoles (siempre me acuerdo de que Cortázar consideraba flojos a varios de sus libros); y otro motivo que me hizo reconsiderar leer a Salinger fue el hecho de que como lector no debo erigirme en juez de ningún libro o autor. Puedo decir que tal libro me gustó o no, pero esto siempre debe suceder después de haber hecho al menos el intento de leerlo.
Inmediatamente se me vino a la cabeza ese inoxidable axioma “Nunca juzgues un libro por su tapa”. De alguna manera extendí esa advertencia también al autor para no emitir prejuicios ni creer que toda su obra es igual.
Es que luego de haber leído un libro como el Ulises de James Joyce, con la complejidad que ese tipo de lecturas genera me dije: “Si pude atravesar ese enjambre de palabras que encierra el Ulises, ¿Cómo no voy a intentar leer “El guardián entre el centeno"?
Entonces, corrí rápidamente a una librería y me compré un ejemplar que me dispuse a leer durante mis vacaciones.
Le reconozco a Salinger la genialidad con la que trata a su personaje principal, Holden Caulfield y de cómo muestra el estado de ánimo de una generación adolescente de posguerra que se extiende aún hasta hoy en la mayoría de los jóvenes. Aclaro esto porque más allá de lo que plantea acerca de cómo mira Holden a la sociedad desde su juventud, no todos los adolescentes pensaron ni piensan igual que él.
Además de todo esto, se pueden observar en su conducta ciertos actitudes misóginas, tendencias a ser muy ácido e irónico con los homosexuales, las prostitutas e incluso las mujeres en general, pero esto surge a partir de merodear bares y lugares de dudosa reputación.
Todo esto contado a partir de un lenguaje bastante vulgar por momentos, para la época y la sociedad de 1951 y sobre todo porque lo cuenta un adolescente. Holden tiene dieciséis años, pero se mueve en ambientes de personas muchos mayores que él, fuma toneladas de cigarrillos y su bebida preferida es el whisky con soda, producto de deambular libremente por cualquier lado con el dato adicional de que posee mucho dinero en sus bolsillos.
Leer “El guardián entre el centeno” es como escuchar “I can’t get no Satisfaction” de los Rolling Stones pero en una versión que dura cuatro horas. Su inconformismo y su situación de constante depresión es total y lo acompaña durante todo el libro.
Hay dos cosas que a Holden le irritan terriblemente en su relación con los distintos personajes que se cruza en la novela desde que lo expulsan del colegio de Pencey hasta que llega a su casa paterna de New York: la falsedad y la hipocresía. Estas son dos características que observa y critica y que lo ponen de mal humor o lo deprimen. Por momentos hace cosas propias de los jóvenes pero también intenta pensar y repensar hacia dónde va su vida (su es que va hacia algún lado) y por qué su actitud es la de desconfiar de esas personas que considera nocivas para él.
El trato con sus compañero de escuela es bastante ríspido, sea con Ackley, Maurice, Stradlater y Spencer e incluso con sus profesores y familiares. Con las chicas (Sally Hayes, Jane Gallagher) no le va precisamente de maravillas. Las posibilidades de acercamiento sexual con ellas posee un recíproco alejamiento afectivo impuesto de antemano.
Pero no todo es negativo para Holden. Hay dos personas, una viva y una muerta que tienen una consideración especial para él. Su fallecido hermano Allie a quien admira profundamente y sobre el que siempre tiene recuerdos entrañables y afectuosos y la tierna debilidad por su pequeña hermanita de ocho años, Phoebe, que siempre está también presente en su vida y en sus pensamientos. Ella es todo para él y viceversa. Son muy unidos y esto se profundizará hacia el final del libro. Pareciera que a veces ella e da sentido a su vida, lo completa, lo tranquiliza.
Terminando esta reseña no puedo dejar de reflexionar acerca de un tema: nunca pudo entenderse cómo este libro pudo plantar ideas criminales en la mente de tres asesinos. El más famoso de ellos, Mark David Chapman, quien asesinara a Lennon el 8 diciembre de 1980 y al que la policía encontró en su habitación leyendo tranquilamente una copia de este ejemplar.
Dicen que los investigadores encontraron detrás de la tapa del libro una frase escrita por Chapman que decía “Esta es mi declaración” y para justificarse aclaró: "Estoy seguro de que la mayor parte de mí es Holden Caulfield, el personaje principal del libro. El resto de mí debe ser el Diablo". Insólito y macabro.
Otro caso fue el de John Hinckley Jr., quien un año más tarde del homicidio de Lennon a manos de Chapman intentó asesinar al presidente Ronald Reagan. El atacante aseguró estar completamente obsesionado con la novela de Salinger. Y un tercer asesino, Robert John Bardó, terminó con la vida de la actriz Rebecca Lucile Schaeffer fue encontrado por la policía del mismo modo que Chapman: con un ejemplar del libro en sus manos.
Finalmente y más allá de estos datos extra literarios, reivindico mi postura con respecto a Salinger y particularmente con este libro. Cuando un libro ingresa en el sitial de los "clásicos", esto no sucede porque sí. Podrá ser amado u odiado pero nunca ignorado y además debe ser leído o intentar ser leído.
Le agradezco haberme dado esa lección, Sr. Salinger.
Por favor tenga a bien aceptar mis disculpas.
April 17,2025
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Sooo my least favorite classic just became a new favorite?!?!? *calls a therapist*

(Torn between 4 and 5 stars
April 17,2025
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There are some areas in this book that we might question the actions of Holden, especially if we reread this book after we have grown up. But still, I think that this is one of the best coming of age novels I was lucky enough to read in my life.

n  n    “The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one.” n  n
April 17,2025
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*2.5 stars(This is overall rating .I will rate the book in parts at the end of this review )

Let me start by saying that I TOTALLY understand why people either HATE or LOVE this book
I really thought at the beginning of the book that I was gonna love this book
Which I did...to a certain extent
April 17,2025
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اولین باری که خوندمش ترم اول دانشگاه بودم، همه تازه از دبیرستان خلاص شده بودیم و "چیا میخونی"یا "چیا گوش میدی" سوال اولی بود که از هم می‌پرسیدیم... پیشنهاد های کتاب هم تکراری بود و بین همه مشترک:
-۱۹۸۴ اورول... اوه عاشقش میشی
-کوری... زندگیت رو عوض می‌کنه
-سمفونی مردگان... قشنگترین کتاب عمرت میشه
-کیمیاگر...لعنتی خیلی خوبه
-مزرعه حیوانات... ده بار خوندمش بی‌نظیره
-ناتور دشت... وای آره عاشقشم
و.....
هممون فاز روشن فکری و افسردگی معنوی داشتیم و مغز هممون هم خالی بود:)
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کتاب رو به قیمت نصف پشت جلد از دست فروشای انقلاب خریدم، ازینایی بود که انتشارات بی‌نام و نشان چاپ می‌کنن و همیشه پنجاه-شصت درصد تخفیف دارن و الان میدونم که همیشه کیفیت ترجمه هاشون افتضاحه ولی اون‌موقع اصلا نمیدونستم ترجمه خوب یا بد چیه... یادمه از اول تا آخرش دوستش نداشتم و یه کسی رو پیدا کردم که اونم می‌گفت آره منم اصلا خوشم نیومد و نشستیم باهم غر زدیم و اینطوری بود که با هم تفاهم پیدا کردیم و پنج سال بعد ازدواج کردیم :)))))))

این‌دفعه تصمیم گرفتم زبان اصلی بخونمش، شاید قلم خود سلینجر رو بیشتر دوست داشته باشم و همچنین خاطرات اون روزایی که کف مترو میشستم و کتاب میخوندم و احساس خفن بودن می‌کردم زنده بشن.

نظرم پس از خوانش دوم:

اگر بخوام خلاصه و در یک جمله بگم، خیلی دوستش داشتم. خیلی ریویوهای خوب و کاملی براش نوشته شده و من دیگه چیزی نمی‌نویسم.
باز هم میخونمش در آینده.

ترجمه‌ی بد چه کارها که با ما نمی‌کنه:/
حالا باید برم خیلی کتابارو بازخوانی کنم و ببینم متن اصلی چطوری بوده...
April 17,2025
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"Scoprirai di non essere il primo che il comportamento degli uomini abbia sconcertato, impaurito e perfino nauseato. Non sei affatto solo a questo traguardo, e saperlo ti servirà d'incitamento e da stimolante".
April 17,2025
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Well, it ain't Huck Finn. But if you're thinkin' glass-half-full, it ain't Vernon God Little neither.

April 17,2025
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n  "Oh, I don’t know. That digression business got on my nerves. I don’t know. The trouble with me is, I like it when somebody digresses. It’s more interesting and all.”n
Yes, this review eventually will be about the book. My reviews always are. I'm boring this way. I envy the ability of my friends to digress in their review space and tell me a story which in some way was inspired by something in the book they just read, or its blurb, or - god forbid now, in the land of GR censorship of anything that does not look like a book report - author behavior, the new scary censorship-causing phrase out there, together with the now-used 'OFF TOPIC' excuse.
Because - oh the horror! - they dare to focus on the readers' opinion rather than the coveted by conglomerates endorsements of THE PRODUCT. Because for some of us literature does not equal product. Because for some of us, literature is what is designed to make us think and speak up, and not mindlessly consume (consumer instead of reader - that's making me shudder).n
But first I WILL digress (and it seems I already have). And Holden Caulfield, the conflicted rebel with all the makings of a phony of the kind he detests, would probably approve. And if Holden approves, who the hell cares if Goodreads or Amazon do?
n  “It’s this course where each boy in class has to get up in class and make a speech. You know. Spontaneous and all. And if the boy digresses at all, you’re supposed to yell ‘Digression!’ at him as fast as you can. It just about drove me crazy. I got an F in it.”
“Why?”
“Oh, I don’t know. That digression business got on my nerves. I don’t know. The trouble with me is, I like it when somebody digresses. It’s more interesting and all.”
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You can't really love The Catcher in the Rye if you are feeling happy and content. At least I can't. When I'm happy, all I see is a moody overly judgmental privileged teenager looking for reasons to bitch about the world and being immature and a phony. I have to feel some discontent to appreciate the hiding behind that facade helpless anger, pain, loss and a rebellious streak. Holden is - or at least sometimes unsuccessfully trying to be - a rebel. A troublemaker. A square peg in a round hole. (Yes, I am very aware I'm quoting the Apple commercial. So sue me. Maybe it's off-topic or something. You decide.)

And right now I am not happy and content seeing the site I used to love heading down the road that is perilous at best. The road that clearly shows preference towards consumers over readers. The consumerism mantra of buy-buy-buy is taking precedence over think-disagree-discuss-passionately argue-watch the truth being born. Holden Caulfield would not approve of such change in direction. And neither do I or so many people I have come to respect, people whose opinions help me discover the works of literature that I love.
Holden Caulfield's views and his expression of them were, admittedly, often juvenile, poorly thought-through and frequently just as phony as those of people he reviles. He was quick to jump to judgment, ignoring those who really cared for him. He was prejudiced, snobbish and arrogant, and a habitual liar, too. How often do the readers want to reach into the book and shake some sense into this boy spiraling down into desperation and a breakdown?

And yet there is something about the unhappy rebellious teenager that still resonates with us despite the obvious flaws. It is his anger itself, the rage against the world that is fake and all about appearances, about the power imbalance, about the smugness the powerful of this world carry with them. His emotions are so raw and so sincere that I may disagree with some of them but I sure as hell can't ignore them.
As we probably all know too well, The Catcher in the Rye has been one of the most challenged books of the 20th century, riling up the emotions and protests of the wannabe censors who thought it was their sacred duty to shield and protect the public from the work of literature that dared to offend their tender sensibilities. These self-appointed sensors were (quite ironically, if you think about it) trying to be nothing less than the self-appointed Catchers in the Rye, protecting our childlike innocence from falling prey to The Catcher in the Rye. What they fail to grasp is that the point of the book itself is that such seemingly noble efforts are useless, worthless, and quite phony in their presumptuousness of knowing what's best; that these efforts are a slippery slope that is futile and dangerous.
Just as it is equally presumptuous and patronizing and dangerous for any power to tell book readers there is a proper way to express their opinions, that they need to stay ON TOPIC (or else there will be a delete-button action equal to the shriek of 'Digression!' gleefully coming from Holden's classmates).

Playing self-appointed Catcher in the Rye to the delicate sensibilities of certain bookselling sites, entitled writers or a bunch of offended fans, shifting the focus from discussing literature to reviewing product and collecting data - all this is just as misguided as Holden's futile efforts of saving children from growing up.n

You see, this is what I love about Salinger's so often contested work - its ability to stir thoughts and opinions that go beyond the plot and the book report and make you think, and maybe -just maybe - be a touch rebellious, too. This is dangerous, in the best meaning of this word, the meaning that makes all the self-appointed censors uneasy. These censors would rather have everyone toe the line and do what's expected and never have to face anything that even remotely upsets delicate sensibilities.

But Holden Caulfield goes on being subversive. And occasionally being off topic - and that's perfectly fine by me.
n  "Oh, I don’t know. That digression business got on my nerves. I don’t know. The trouble with me is, I like it when somebody digresses. It’s more interesting and all.”n
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April 17,2025
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This is one of those books that either speaks straight to people's hearts or leaves them completely cold. I'm in the latter camp: I found nothing in this book that moved me, or struck me as significant, or any way changed my life. I was annoyed by everyone and everything in this book, start to finish.

But then, I was one of those bookworm, straight-A, goody-two-shoes teens who never got into any significant trouble or had any really major angst, other than getting teased by the cooler kids at school. Which was stressful for me, but not, I think, the kind of life stress this book is dealing with. So I respect that this book has been vitally important to a whole lot of people, but all it did for me was waste a few hours of my time.
April 17,2025
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Anyway, I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody’s around—nobody big, I mean—except me. And I’m standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff—I mean if they’re running and they don’t look where they’re going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That’s all I’d do all day. I’d just be the catcher in the rye and all. I know it’s crazy, but that’s the only thing I’d really like to be. I know it’s crazy.
Somehow I was never assigned to read The Catcher in the Rye when I was in school. So I went into the book basically knowing only that it’s regularly listed as one of the best American novels and that it’s one of the most challenged or banned books in schools.

Addressing that second part first, I have no idea why The Catcher in the Rye is still one of the most challenged or banned books in schools. I’m sure it was very controversial … back in 1951, what with 16-year-old narrator Holden Caulfield swearing and talking about sex and atheism and stuff. Released today, the novel would be standard YA. I strongly suspect this novel is so much more widely challenged simply because it is so much more widely known.

As to the book’s reputation for greatness, just reread the Goodreads description. Whoever wrote that plainly thinks The Catcher in the Rye is extraordinary, because one person’s “[t]he boy himself is at once too simple and too complex for us to make any final comment about him or his story” is another person’s “this novel presents no coherent comment on how the reader is supposed to view Holden.”

Holden Caulfield is an exceptionally unlikely hero. He tells the reader in the opening chapter that he has been institutionalized, making him the most unreliable of narrators. Indeed, he mentions some form of the word “depressed” fifty-two times in the story. He is certainly alienated, pining for a girl who he never actually connects with in the novel, and obsessed with sex yet strangely ambivalent about it. He spends most of the novel wandering-while-bored (or depressed), dissatisfied with everything. He’s so convinced of his own correctness about the world and hates “phonies” (just ask him) without ever seeming to realize that his snap judgments and harsh, fact-free opinions on an endless series of topics are at least as phony as the subjects of his criticism. He talks a big game throughout, projecting that he feels he’s wise beyond his years, when he actually seems immature.

A cynical but possibly true argument would be that The Catcher in the Rye is considered great because it benefits from the mystique surrounding the author, was original when published, is timeless in its theme of teenage rebellion, and is therefore an evergreen novel for high schools that has made it is so much more widely known than other would-be similar great novels. But that argument would leave out that there is something special about Holden’s narrative voice and tale. It may be full of contradictions, and unintentionally funny at times, but it is a captivating portrait of a classic angsty teen rebel who is ultimately terrified of leaving childhood behind and entering adulthood. Recommended if, like me, you never read it in school and/or if you love the word “really” (used 232 times) and/or if you are wondering whether Holden would call you a phony (spoiler alert: he almost certainly will).
April 17,2025
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(Book 529 from 1001 books) - The Catcher In The Rye, J.D. Salinger

The Catcher in the Rye is a 1951 novel by J. D. Salinger.

Holden Caulfield, a teenager from New York City, is living in an unspecified institution in southern California near Hollywood in 1951.

Story of Holden Caulfield with his idiosyncrasies, penetrating insight, confusion, sensitivity and negativism.

The hero-narrator of "The Catcher in the Rye" is an ancient child of sixteen, a native New Yorker named Holden Caulfield.

Through circumstances that tend to preclude adult, secondhand description, he leaves his prep school in Pennsylvania and goes underground in New York City for three days.

The boy himself is at once too simple and too complex for us to make any final comment about him or his story. Perhaps the safest thing we can say about Holden is that he was born in the world not just strongly attracted to beauty but, almost, hopelessly impaled on it.

There are many voices in this novel: children's voices, adult voices, underground voices -- but Holden's voice is the most eloquent of all.

Transcending his own vernacular, yet remaining marvelously faithful to it, he issues a perfectly articulated cry of mixed pain and pleasure.

However, like most lovers and clowns and poets of the higher orders, he keeps most of the pain to, and for, himself. The pleasure he gives away, or sets aside, with all his heart.

تاریخ نخستین خوانش: بار نخست ماه آگوست سال 1982میلادی، بار دوم در سال 2001میلادی و سومین بار در ماه ژوئن سال 2005میلادی

عنوان: ناطور دشت؛ نویسنده: جروم دیوید (جی.د.) سالینجر؛ مترجم: احمد کریمی؛ تهران، فرانکلین، 1345؛ در 354ص؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، اشرفی، 1371؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، ققنوس، 1381؛ در 326ص؛ شابک 9643112543؛ چاپ چهارم 1385؛ چاپ پنجم تهران، علمی، فرهنگی، 1386؛ در326ص؛ شابک 9789643112547؛ چاپ ششم 1387؛ چاپ هفتم 1388، هشتم 1389؛ سال 1393؛ چاپ دیگر 1393؛ در 256ص؛ شابک9786001215930؛ موضوع نوجوانان فراری - داستانهای نویسندگان ایالات متحده آمریکا - سده 20م

عنوان: ناتور دشت؛ مترجم: محمد نجفی؛ تهران، نیلا، 1378، در 296ص؛ چاپ چهارم 1381؛ چاپ پنجم 1384 در 207ص؛ هفتم 1388؛ هشتم 1389؛ چاپ نهم 1393؛

داستان جوانی جسور و جستجوگر، در پی مفهوم زندگی است؛ «هولدن کالفیلد»، نوجوانی هفده ساله، که در آغاز رمان، در یک مرکز درمانی بستری است، و ظاهراً قصد دارد، آن‌چه که پیش از رسیدن به مرکز درمانی را، از سر بگذرانده، برای کسی بازگو کند، همین ‌کار را هم می‌کند؛ رمان بر همین پایه شکل می‌گیرد؛ در زمان رخداد رویدادهای داستان، «هولدن» یک پسر بچه ی شانزده‌ ساله‌ است، که در مدرسه ی شبانه‌ روزی «پنسی»، درس می‌خواند، و در آستانه ی کریسمس، به علت ضعف تحصیلی، از دبیرستان اخراج میشود، و باید به خانه‌ شان در «نیویورک» برگردد؛

همه ی رویدادهای داستان، طی سه روز، که «هولدن»، از مدرسه، برای رفتن به خانه خارج می‌شود، رخ می‌دهند؛ او می‌خواهد «تا نامه ی مدیر، مبنی بر اخراجش، به دست پدر و مادرش برسد، و آب‌ها از آسیاب بیفتد به خانه ی خویش پا نگذارد»؛ به همین ‌خاطر از زمانیکه از مدرسه خارج ‌میشود، دو روز را به سرگردانی سپری می‌کند؛ این دو روز نمادی است، از سفر «هولدن»، از کودکی به دنیای جوانی؛ رمان اصلی در سال 1951میلادی منتشر شده، برگردان فارسی رمان، یعنی همین کتاب با عنوان «ناطور دشت»، با ترجمه ی جناب «احمد کریمی»، در دهه ی پنجاه هجری خورشیدی منتشر گردیده است؛ سپس برگردان دیگری با عنوان «ناتور دشت»، با ترجمه ی جناب: «محمد نجفی»، در دهه ی هفتاد هجری خورشیدی نیز منتشر شده است

تاریخ بهنگام رسانی 27/05/1399هجری خورشیدی؛ 07/05/1400هجری خورشیدی؛ ا. شربیانی
April 17,2025
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The most overrated "classic" of all time

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...and I don't give a F__K about your opinion.
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