Foucault and Chomsky's debate on power and justice is an interesting one. There is no attempt at intellectual superiority as both are intellectuals. However, Chomsky seems unable to analyze the concepts of power and justice independently from the field in which he has dedicated himself. Since he is more concerned with the field of language, he didn't seem to be as proficient in the subject as Foucault. But I still think he expressed himself well (not extremely well; just well).
On the other hand, the moderator Elders (even though he was once interrupted by Foucault) is very knowledgeable and proficient in the subject. The questions are very accurate. Indeed, it is not easy to bring Foucault and Chomsky onto the same platform and create a critical level.
Another point is that Foucault presents himself here with a familiar guise again; as an archaeologist of knowledge. It is a great source that I believe those interested in the subject will benefit from.
Note: For those who are curious, there is also a video with Turkish subtitles available on YouTube.
Books hold a certain degree of importance as through them, readers can get a glimpse of the ideas of philosophers Noam Chomsky and Michel Foucault in a simple way. The book's themes revolve around human nature, creativity, power, the critique of political reason, and political discourse. My interest lies in the stance of Noam Chomsky and Michel Foucault on power. Chomsky believes that the American system is not a democratic one. He even contends that if there were a rational fascist dictatorship, it would choose the American system. Chomsky presents many rational arguments and proofs to support his stance. He also refers to the American elite and the mass media. In his view, the American media is not free as it consists of capitalist institutions. Michel Foucault agrees with this view. He believes that he lives under a hierarchical dictatorship, that is, under the power of a class that imposes itself by force.
What stopped me in reading the book was Michel Foucault's idea of justice. He says that the idea of justice is an invented one and is used in societies as a tool for political and economic power or as a weapon against this power. The idea of justice works within a class society as a claim for the oppressed class and as a justification for it. That is, justice is just a weapon used by any oppressed class as a weapon for it to suppress the exploited class later. Of course, Chomsky does not agree with Foucault's stance in this regard.
It is difficult to write a comprehensive review of the book to cover its specific topics. The book is a television interview that brings together the philosophers and they discuss their views on different topics. This interview is available on YouTube. The book also contains a number of articles written by both thinkers. I think the book provided me with an introduction to get to know Noam Chomsky and Michel Foucault to a greater extent.
An awesome transcript of their debate indeed! In my humble opinion, Foucault seemed to outmaneuver Chomsky, although he didn't have sufficient time to fully address his points. In a debate, there's this crucial aspect where even when debating a particular definition, like human nature in this case, we must first agree on other definitions before delving into the core of our arguments. I believe this is where they faced difficulties. It felt as if they sometimes missed each other's points because they were arguing based on their own definitions, especially regarding creativity. Both sides had solid arguments. However, when they reached the actual point of clash, as a self-proclaimed post-structuralist, I was inclined towards Foucault's argument that there is no such thing as an "innate" human nature. As a former debater (thank the lord above), this was not only interesting in terms of theory but also in terms of the actual debating process.