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Professor Clark has set up a new category of Australian historians of great merit whose surname is Clark who have come to grips with German civilisation. He achieved this by being the second historian from this country with this surname to gain a great level of proficiency in this area. Like the first Clark he has propounded cogent and able to be understood by the public ideas about European civilisation. No historian who cannot be understood by the wider public is a great historian. That is why there are so few of them about.
I had the misfortune to quote the great Otto Hintze in my thesis undertaken at UNSW. Hence I was then immediately exiled to the furthest reaches of the footpath and the never ending roundelay of the five minute wait for the bus to escape out of there, rather than be able to argue for anything at all while there other than keep quiet. As to invoke anyone who advocates going through the archives and proffering generalisations based on this, was then, and remains now, the greatest sin. A deep original sin that anyone wishing to become a successful local worker of anti-narrative must not do.
Professor Clark has been at Cambridge for well over generation now and so can generalise at will from his acutely precise and massively documented work done in the archives, as he has done in dozens of articles, chapters, conference papers and books, at his leisure, from this genuinely scholarly vantage point. And for 40 years he has not ever had to get than damn bus back to the City from Kensington, or the bus he may be somewhat more familiar with, from Darlington or Glebe back to the City (from his and my original Alma Mater, Sydney University.)
Has he missed the bus with his cultural defence of Prussia?
When Otto Hintze’s wife committed suicide to avoid being sent to a Camp she embodied the highest virtues of Prussian civilisation Clark talks about. Of course, those sending her to the camp did not.
He is right about this.
Rwanda is more than the nightmare it became and was and to some extent remains. Great Britain was more than just the sum-total of the forces and interplay that deliberately sat out the Great Famine in Ireland seeing it as an expedient form of another Great Clearance. The United States is more than Jackson’s and many other betrayals of the Cherokee of Georgia. We, Australians are not just the total of the dynamics within which we have immured the local First Nations for the last two hundred years or so.
However, I cannot judge that whatever else is this greater Prussia was not also behind Hitler and the whole thing. Say, from the time of Von Papen’s silly attempts to hope that the Nazi’s would turn out to be more easily able to be outmanoeuvred than Mussolini’s movement. Or even in the five or so years before the early 1930’s, the earlier period- when Hitler was promoted like a sort of protean prototype of our own Dinky di Aussie version, Pauline Hanson. That is let into the drawings rooms and power centres of the powerful and rich to help the ’right people” regain power or whatever.
Professor Clark’s Prussia has it paws all over Hitler. Just as this greater Prussia also has had its paws all over the obtaining of the train that they then filled with Bolsheviks and then sent across the Steppes to sow the seeds of confusion and implosion in Imperial Russia.
In that sense these Prussians perpetrated not just one but two of the greatest evils in human history and this needs to be held against them in an historical sense.
There is also in the Professors Prussia the things that became the living nightmare of East Germany from 1945 till its collapse. As much as there is this Prussia in the Stein Hardenberg reforms and in Frederick the Great and nose flutes and chats with Goethe etc/.,
However, the Professor’s case remains cogent that Prussia was more than these things too, but I am afraid to say it was these things too.
I look today at Angela Merkel and see ho she grew up in the almost absurd world of left-wing ideology-soaked nightmare and the imploded, evil and stupefying structurally violent meta prison camp called ‘the GDR. Yet she is the current Chancellor of a united Germany. Yet she deliberately defied the right wing and let in another million or more Syrians and others just to show that what Clark calls this greater idea of Prussia has some substance attached to it.
It is good and bad and evil, as all complex evolving civilisations are capable of sickening degeneration into barbarity almost at a moment’s notice, but remain able to be resurrected from this almost as quickly.
But we must remain on guard.
In the 1970's my late father in law was asked to have lunch by the Commander of a US nuclear submarine. I think they were both in France at that time. The Commander revealed he had been asked to tour a secret French nuclear arms facility. Where he was told about the four or five lines of defence of the force de frappe missile. Some could go to Moscow, others surprisingly, maybe into the Atlantic and beyond etc., (especially via the French fleet).
Also, while there he noticed a group of short-range missiles whose range was less than 80 -100 kilometres beyond the Rhine. All of which all had small nuclear devices atop them. The Commander determined that these were set -positioned, in such way as to fly due West from France and go onto Western German targets alone!. He asked, “These missiles can only go 50-80- kilometres or so at east, of the Rhine, all of them would only find targets in Western Germany is this so?”
The French he said shrugged their shoulders and said “Oui”
All of us must do more than merely state that Prussia and Germany has a wonderful civilised heritage it also has other potentialities …
Professor Clark is providing a valid and valuable and distinguished reminder of this heritage.
Despite this, from what I can see of his wider work he is also acutely aware of the evils that lurk behind the European capacity for mimesis of both good and evil. This applies to the Prussia he writes of as much as any other of the other key informing major cultures of Europe.
I had the misfortune to quote the great Otto Hintze in my thesis undertaken at UNSW. Hence I was then immediately exiled to the furthest reaches of the footpath and the never ending roundelay of the five minute wait for the bus to escape out of there, rather than be able to argue for anything at all while there other than keep quiet. As to invoke anyone who advocates going through the archives and proffering generalisations based on this, was then, and remains now, the greatest sin. A deep original sin that anyone wishing to become a successful local worker of anti-narrative must not do.
Professor Clark has been at Cambridge for well over generation now and so can generalise at will from his acutely precise and massively documented work done in the archives, as he has done in dozens of articles, chapters, conference papers and books, at his leisure, from this genuinely scholarly vantage point. And for 40 years he has not ever had to get than damn bus back to the City from Kensington, or the bus he may be somewhat more familiar with, from Darlington or Glebe back to the City (from his and my original Alma Mater, Sydney University.)
Has he missed the bus with his cultural defence of Prussia?
When Otto Hintze’s wife committed suicide to avoid being sent to a Camp she embodied the highest virtues of Prussian civilisation Clark talks about. Of course, those sending her to the camp did not.
He is right about this.
Rwanda is more than the nightmare it became and was and to some extent remains. Great Britain was more than just the sum-total of the forces and interplay that deliberately sat out the Great Famine in Ireland seeing it as an expedient form of another Great Clearance. The United States is more than Jackson’s and many other betrayals of the Cherokee of Georgia. We, Australians are not just the total of the dynamics within which we have immured the local First Nations for the last two hundred years or so.
However, I cannot judge that whatever else is this greater Prussia was not also behind Hitler and the whole thing. Say, from the time of Von Papen’s silly attempts to hope that the Nazi’s would turn out to be more easily able to be outmanoeuvred than Mussolini’s movement. Or even in the five or so years before the early 1930’s, the earlier period- when Hitler was promoted like a sort of protean prototype of our own Dinky di Aussie version, Pauline Hanson. That is let into the drawings rooms and power centres of the powerful and rich to help the ’right people” regain power or whatever.
Professor Clark’s Prussia has it paws all over Hitler. Just as this greater Prussia also has had its paws all over the obtaining of the train that they then filled with Bolsheviks and then sent across the Steppes to sow the seeds of confusion and implosion in Imperial Russia.
In that sense these Prussians perpetrated not just one but two of the greatest evils in human history and this needs to be held against them in an historical sense.
There is also in the Professors Prussia the things that became the living nightmare of East Germany from 1945 till its collapse. As much as there is this Prussia in the Stein Hardenberg reforms and in Frederick the Great and nose flutes and chats with Goethe etc/.,
However, the Professor’s case remains cogent that Prussia was more than these things too, but I am afraid to say it was these things too.
I look today at Angela Merkel and see ho she grew up in the almost absurd world of left-wing ideology-soaked nightmare and the imploded, evil and stupefying structurally violent meta prison camp called ‘the GDR. Yet she is the current Chancellor of a united Germany. Yet she deliberately defied the right wing and let in another million or more Syrians and others just to show that what Clark calls this greater idea of Prussia has some substance attached to it.
It is good and bad and evil, as all complex evolving civilisations are capable of sickening degeneration into barbarity almost at a moment’s notice, but remain able to be resurrected from this almost as quickly.
But we must remain on guard.
In the 1970's my late father in law was asked to have lunch by the Commander of a US nuclear submarine. I think they were both in France at that time. The Commander revealed he had been asked to tour a secret French nuclear arms facility. Where he was told about the four or five lines of defence of the force de frappe missile. Some could go to Moscow, others surprisingly, maybe into the Atlantic and beyond etc., (especially via the French fleet).
Also, while there he noticed a group of short-range missiles whose range was less than 80 -100 kilometres beyond the Rhine. All of which all had small nuclear devices atop them. The Commander determined that these were set -positioned, in such way as to fly due West from France and go onto Western German targets alone!. He asked, “These missiles can only go 50-80- kilometres or so at east, of the Rhine, all of them would only find targets in Western Germany is this so?”
The French he said shrugged their shoulders and said “Oui”
All of us must do more than merely state that Prussia and Germany has a wonderful civilised heritage it also has other potentialities …
Professor Clark is providing a valid and valuable and distinguished reminder of this heritage.
Despite this, from what I can see of his wider work he is also acutely aware of the evils that lurk behind the European capacity for mimesis of both good and evil. This applies to the Prussia he writes of as much as any other of the other key informing major cultures of Europe.