Talvez eu não seja filósofo suficiente para esse livro. O tema é bem abordado, mas mesmo sendo exemplificado e utilizando-se de metáforas simples, me pareceu extenso, repetitivo e algo confuso. Contudo, o autor nos leva a compreender evolução das diversas capacidades de pensamentos como vantagens evolutivas da espécie, e nos levanta tantas questões que demonstram como estamos engatinhando no entendimento dessa área de conhecimento.
Huge points the author assumes you take on faith at the very beginning: 1. solipsism is false because i said so 2. brain = mind
He then bases everything after the fact on those points, interchanging brain with mind constantly which put a sour taste in my mouth.
The best parts of the book come at the absolute end where he theorizes that the closest we can come to understanding any other animal is those that live in close proximity to us, as we change those animals to become more human (i.e. dogs).
Then in a weird finish, he makes a very quick point to say there is no inward suffering without an outward result.
Two big points he could have actually expanded on to make this worthwhile, yet I assume he didn't because I was not his target audience, as this book is more for the person who has never thought about this topic.
the first od Dennet Books I dont agree inmediatly, perhaps because an emotional stance on the issue of animal suffering, but also because is not the most convincing argument I have read of it, nor even by authors of the same line of thinking, as Pinker and Harari.
Although I do not necessarily agree with all that Dennett stated in this book, I have to say that he stated it exceptionally well. This was an accessible, high level philosophical book detailing the conception of animal minds vs. human minds. Each philosophical concept he put forward he carefully defined and explained with often amusing examples.
The ideas that he came up with himself (i.e. The Tower of Generate and Test, mamataxis, etc.) were novel and interesting without being too difficult to grasp. I enjoyed the quotes at the beginning of each chapter. Although the book was dense in its content, it never strayed too far from what is easily grasped with a bit of mental effort. I'd recommend this alongside Species of Mind which addresses several small flaws in some conclusions that he draws.
Although I expected the book to be different I really enjoyed it. It deals with topics such as the idea of the intentional stance, the importance of speed in our understanding of consciousness and intelligence, functionalism, a simple hierarchy for classifying minds and pain and suffering, offering interesting views and arguments.
Definitely an interesting read if you are interested in the discussion of consciousness or animal rights.
Some ideas I found interesting on this book are:
- The distinction between the physical, design and intentional stance and their usefulness on prediction (even if we apply them to things that are not designed of are not agents). - A mind might have to be at least as speed as the events it acts onto be considered sentient - Language might be the defining characteristic of human mind. There is no equivalent internal stream of consciousness in other animals - Dissociation may help us explain the difference between human-like experience of suffering and non human suffering - Pain as time✕intensity might not make a lot of sense since an agent might prefer 5 seconds of intense pain instead of a year of low pain.
I can’t get enough of Dennett and his writing. I find consciousness incredibly fascinating and I think there are very few people that can talk about this in a clear and helpful way.
I’m not sure I agree with or even understand the entire argument presented in this book, but it certainly gave me a lot to think about. It made me want to read more about animal consciousness.
ما هو الوعي؟ ما الفرق بين وعي الانسان والحيوان والنباتات والكائنات الدقيقة؟
في هذا الكتاب يُعرف الفيلسوف دانييل دينيت الوعي ويتحدث عن تطوره من الكائنات الدقيقة الأولى إلى ما نراه الآن في الانسان والقردة العليا والكائنات الأخرى التي تشابهها في درجة الوعي
يتطرق دينيت إلى ما يسميه بـ(الحالة المتعمدة) أو (المقصودة) وهي طريقة رائعة تجعلنا ننظر إلى الوعي من زاوية مختلفة تماماً، تقارب بين الكائنات "الواعية" و"غير الواعية"ـ
الكتاب لا يجيب على الكثير من الأسئلة لكنه بلا شك يفتح الباب لفهم الوعي والإدراك