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Dear Jon,
This is the third book by you that I've read, the first two being Into the Wild and Into Thin Air. I've given all three books five sparkly stars because I absolutely love your journalistic though artful writing style. However, I must admit that while I thoroughly enjoyed both Into the Wild and Into Thin Air, I just could not relate in any shape or form to the adventure/thrill seeking mentality that drove the characters in those two works. Sure, I was fascinated, captivated, and entertained, but in a detached sort of way.
But this, Under the Banner of Heaven, this resonated so much so that I found myself repeatedly resisting the urge to offer up an enthusiastic amen after an especially insightful and enlightening passage, and there were many.
So a sincere, thanks.
Yours Truly,
A Fan
Okay...so What is this book about?: Well, that's a tough one. On one hand, I think this book tells the story of two fundamentalist Mormon brothers who, proclaiming to be inspired by their God, commit the viscous murder of their sister-in-law and baby niece. However, that is simply the glue that seems to hold it all together, since a good deal of the book is spent describing the origins (often bloody) of the Mormon church and its founder, Joseph Smith, while another large chunk is used to explore Mormon fundamentalism and extremist branches of the main LDS church with a big chunk spent on some of the fundamentalist's more controversial practices, like polygamy.
On a grander scale, I think this book is about the birth of a religion(the good and the bad) whose inception is relatively recent (less than 200 years) and as a result is well documented.
And finally, I think this is a book that tries to make sense of how one man's sacred belief can be another man's bizarre delusion.
What I loved about the book: While the history of Mormonism is fascinating and the murders/kidnapping/crimes committed by some more extreme fundamentalists are sensational enough to make for an emotionally-charged story, what I really enjoyed about this book was the discussion that surrounded the determination of Roy Lafferty's mental health.
Roy Lafferty is an excommunicated member of the Mormon church who turned to a more extreme form of Mormonism, a purer version in his view. He claimed and sincerely believed that God commanded him to kill his sister-in-law, her young daughter, along with two acquaintances he felt bore responsibility for his wife divorcing him, Richard Stowe and Chloe Low. Luckily, either by sheer luck or divine intervention (whichever you choose) Low and Stowe would be spared. Unfortunately, Brenda Lafferty and her daughter Erica were not.
While it almost seems to reason that any man capable of coldblooded murder is insane or at least mentally ill, the law looks at it differently. And in this case the determination of Roy's mental state lent itself to a provocative discussion.
n ...and just how many Americans have killed and died for "God and their country"?n
Also taken from the testimony of Noel Gardner, M.D., a psychiatrist affiliated with the University of Utah Medical School as it appears in this book.
Referring to testimony from a Dr. Wootton:
Dan Lafferty's response when asked to consider if he felt that it was possible that like the terrorists of September 11th, he was misguided.(Dan, Ron's brother, was his partner in the crime.)
n ...10,000 religions...and only ONE can be right...n
To whom would I recommend this book? I'd recommend this book to anyone who enjoys investigative journalism with an artistic flare and who is open to discussion of religious belief. In the last chapter, Krakauer shares his own personal non-religious stance, and I think that his skepticism is transparent throughout the story. He obviously isn't making a case in support of Mormonism, or religious belief in general, though he's not advocating against it either, at least not overtly. But one can sense that he doesn't relate to the leap of faith many of the people he interviews have taken.
I'll end with two more excerpts both taken from an interview with DeLoy Bateman, a once fundamentalist Mormon/polygamist (not all fundamentalists are polygamists) who is now an atheist, as he reflects on his non-belief. His sentiments happen to mirror my own.
Then later in their interview:
This is the third book by you that I've read, the first two being Into the Wild and Into Thin Air. I've given all three books five sparkly stars because I absolutely love your journalistic though artful writing style. However, I must admit that while I thoroughly enjoyed both Into the Wild and Into Thin Air, I just could not relate in any shape or form to the adventure/thrill seeking mentality that drove the characters in those two works. Sure, I was fascinated, captivated, and entertained, but in a detached sort of way.
But this, Under the Banner of Heaven, this resonated so much so that I found myself repeatedly resisting the urge to offer up an enthusiastic amen after an especially insightful and enlightening passage, and there were many.
So a sincere, thanks.
Yours Truly,
A Fan
Okay...so What is this book about?: Well, that's a tough one. On one hand, I think this book tells the story of two fundamentalist Mormon brothers who, proclaiming to be inspired by their God, commit the viscous murder of their sister-in-law and baby niece. However, that is simply the glue that seems to hold it all together, since a good deal of the book is spent describing the origins (often bloody) of the Mormon church and its founder, Joseph Smith, while another large chunk is used to explore Mormon fundamentalism and extremist branches of the main LDS church with a big chunk spent on some of the fundamentalist's more controversial practices, like polygamy.
On a grander scale, I think this book is about the birth of a religion(the good and the bad) whose inception is relatively recent (less than 200 years) and as a result is well documented.
And finally, I think this is a book that tries to make sense of how one man's sacred belief can be another man's bizarre delusion.
What I loved about the book: While the history of Mormonism is fascinating and the murders/kidnapping/crimes committed by some more extreme fundamentalists are sensational enough to make for an emotionally-charged story, what I really enjoyed about this book was the discussion that surrounded the determination of Roy Lafferty's mental health.
Roy Lafferty is an excommunicated member of the Mormon church who turned to a more extreme form of Mormonism, a purer version in his view. He claimed and sincerely believed that God commanded him to kill his sister-in-law, her young daughter, along with two acquaintances he felt bore responsibility for his wife divorcing him, Richard Stowe and Chloe Low. Luckily, either by sheer luck or divine intervention (whichever you choose) Low and Stowe would be spared. Unfortunately, Brenda Lafferty and her daughter Erica were not.
While it almost seems to reason that any man capable of coldblooded murder is insane or at least mentally ill, the law looks at it differently. And in this case the determination of Roy's mental state lent itself to a provocative discussion.
n Whether Ron lived or died would hinge entirely on whether a jury could be convinced that his religious beliefs--including his certainty that God had commanded the removal of Brenda and Erica Lafferty--were not only sincerely held but also so extreme as to be a delusional artifact of a diseased mind.
Such a defense would unavoidably raise the same difficult epistomological questions that had come to the fore after the Tenth Circuit Court's ruling in 1991: if Ron Lafferty were deemed mentally ill because he obeyed the voice of his God, isn't everyone who believes in God and seeks guidance through prayer mentally ill as well? In a democratic republic that aspires to protect religious freedom, who should have the right to declare that one person's irrational beliefs are legitimate and commendable, while another person's are crazy? How can a society promote religious faith on one hand and condemn a man for zealously adhering to his faith on the other?
This, after all, is a country led by (or at least at the time) a born-again Christian, President George W. Bush, who believes he is an instrument of God and characterizes international relations as a biblical clash between forces of good and evil. pg 294n
n ...and just how many Americans have killed and died for "God and their country"?n
Also taken from the testimony of Noel Gardner, M.D., a psychiatrist affiliated with the University of Utah Medical School as it appears in this book.
n Later, Gardner expounded further on the distinction between believing in preposterous religious tenets and clinical delusion. "A false belief", he reiterated, "isn't necessarily a basis of a mental illness." He emphasized that most of mankind subscribes to "ideas that are not particularly rational...For example in something referred to as trans-substantiation. That is when the priest performs the Mass, that the bread and wine become the actual blood and body of Christ. From a scientific standpoint, that is a very strange, irrational, absurd idea. But we accept that on the basis of faith, those of us who believe that. And because it has become so familiar and common to us, that idea of the virgin birth, which from a medical standpoint is highly irrational, but it is an article of faith from a religious standpoint." pg 298n
Referring to testimony from a Dr. Wootton:
n All kind of things are accepted by one culture or another that would appear crazy or extreme to those outside the culture, Wootton agreed. pg 300n
Dan Lafferty's response when asked to consider if he felt that it was possible that like the terrorists of September 11th, he was misguided.(Dan, Ron's brother, was his partner in the crime.)
n "I have to admit, the terrorists were following their prophet," Dan says. "They were wiling to do essentially what I did. I see the parallel. But the difference between those guys and me is, they were following a false prophet, and I'm not." pg 318n
n ...10,000 religions...and only ONE can be right...n
To whom would I recommend this book? I'd recommend this book to anyone who enjoys investigative journalism with an artistic flare and who is open to discussion of religious belief. In the last chapter, Krakauer shares his own personal non-religious stance, and I think that his skepticism is transparent throughout the story. He obviously isn't making a case in support of Mormonism, or religious belief in general, though he's not advocating against it either, at least not overtly. But one can sense that he doesn't relate to the leap of faith many of the people he interviews have taken.
I'll end with two more excerpts both taken from an interview with DeLoy Bateman, a once fundamentalist Mormon/polygamist (not all fundamentalists are polygamists) who is now an atheist, as he reflects on his non-belief. His sentiments happen to mirror my own.
n "Could there be a supreme power out there somewhere? Is there a grand plan behind the big bang, the creation of the universe, the evolution of species? I don't know, I suppose it's possible; I guess I'd like to at least allow for the possibility in the back of my mind. But common sense tells me otherwise." pg 328n
Then later in their interview:
n "It's amazing how gullible people are," DeLoy continues. "But you have to remember what a huge comfort the religion is. It provides all the answers. It makes life simple." pg 331n