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April 1,2025
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Glorious Exploits brought me here. And, if you too find your way here wondering if reading the plays "performed" in that novel are worth reading--yeah. The answer is yeah, it totally is.
April 1,2025
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Read Hecuba and Trojan Women. All the tragedy of the genre with only a fraction of ambiguity that makes the great Greek tragedies great.
April 1,2025
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Whether by coincidence or design, I think this collection may be the most coherent volume of the Chicago editions of the tragedies. Three of the four plays are concerned with the fate of various women of Troy after the conclusion of the ten-year war and the sacking of the city and the fourth addresses the aftermath of one of Apollo's endless stream of rapes. Euripides is frequently interested in the strategies that women must employ to live with intention in a system of gender relations that is premised on their lesser humanity. That is very much to the fore in this "me-too-est " of collections.

Hecuba is a satisfying (if you like that kind of thing and I really do, I guess I'm a little embarrassed to admit) revenge narrative. As it happens, it was the second classical tragedy that I was ever able to see performed live and my first encounter with the red-ribbon-as-blood bit of stagecraft that has gone from new and exciting to tired and silly in the intervening years. While he pulls a few dick moves in Homer to be certain, I'm fascinated by the way that Odysseus is such a mustache-twirling, stock villain in so many of the tragedies. Reading this collection, I was conscious of the shadow of the Peloponnesian War, which was raging during Euripides' most productive period. Bellicose schemers and the miseries they cause were, I would imagine, familiar to the ἐκκλησία that formed the audience for his plays.

Perhaps my opinion of The Trojan Women is inflated by the excellent Michael Cacoyannis film version that I watched, but I found it one of the most moving of the tragedies. Set immediately after Troy's defeat, we see the women of the royal house delivered to their terrible individual fates: murder, infanticide and chattel slavery.It felt uncomfortably relevant to read this brutal account of the eternal sexual politics of international conflict just as the United States removed troops from Afghanistan and Taliban domination commenced.

Andromache tells the story of the rivalry between the title character, who had become the "slave-wife" of Achilles' son Neoptolemus, and his new wife, the dreadful Hermione, daughter of Menelaus and Helen. While Euripides is definitely the most "feminist" of the tragedians, I am not infrequently surprised at the level of hostile, Helen-directed slut-shaming that goes on, and he clearly views Hermione as characteristic fruit of that poisoned tree. The play was involving, but it sorta felt like Medea-lite.

My first-year Greek instructor liked to say that Apollo, in Greek myth, is less a Nietzschean exemplar of rationality and music and medicine and sunlight than a chronic, failed rapist. His bumbling attempts at sexual assaults are at the heart of so many of the Greek 'just-so' stories. In this instance the rape, of a princess of Athens, is actually perpetrated and the boy that Creusa, the victim, bears is whisked away by his dad to serve as an acolyte at Delphi. All of this leads to the highly-charged scene of belated recognition that you might expect. Again, engaging enough but Euripides did the same thing better elsewhere.
April 1,2025
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Liked the feeling of originality that is lost in newer works in the world.
April 1,2025
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Read for class; installment of Greek Tragedies. Great translations, would definitely recommended to any mythology lovers & those that enjoy Classic Literature.
April 1,2025
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actually very sad. women in classics you will always be special to me. cassandra in the background of the plays is nice i love her, but especially hecuba is just sad. very good reads and great stories! just Sad
April 1,2025
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Hecuba: 4/5. Woman getting revenge.
Andromache: 3/5. Didn't even have much to do with Andromache in the second half. Disjointed.
Trojan Women: 3.5/5. The depressing fates of Hecuba, Andromache, and Helen after the war.
Ion: 4/5. Who's son is Ion? Let's hope no one dies before the truth comes out.
April 1,2025
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I have still to decipher the criterion underlying the order in which these plays appear in this volume. Three of the plays can be considered sequels to the Trojan War focusing on the surviving women: (Hecuba centered on King Priam's widow, Andromache on Hector's widow, and The Trojan Women is more loosely centered on Hecuba as she comes across her daughter and prophetess Cassandra, her daughter-in-law Andromache and Helen, her son Paris' mistress and the ostensible cause of the Trojan war. The fourth play is not related to the Trojan War at all but is about Ion, a Delphian priest's discovery that he is an offspring of a god and a woman and his mother's discovery that Ion did not die of exposure when she abandoned him as a baby.

The plays are not, as far as the translators indicate, in chronological order of writing. Andromache is probably the oldest of the four plays (430-424 BC), Hecuba is dated at having been composed or presented between 424 and 425 BC, Ion dates from 420-410 BC and The Trojan Women was presented in competition in 415 BC. The Trojan Women depicts events happening after Troy has fallen, just after it has been sacked and set fire to and before the Greeks set sail home, Hecuba three days after the Greek fleet set sail and while they were becalmed on the shores of Thrace, and Andromache several years after Achilles' son returned home to Phtia with Andromache as his prize of war and slave concubine. So it could be tempting to read these three plays in this order, but the problem is that Hecuba is, in my opinion, by far the most powerful of the three plays, so reading Hecuba before Andromache casts far too great a shadow on the last play. If you want to read only one of the four plays in this volume, I would recommend reading Hecuba. If you want to read the three "Trojan" plays I would suggest reading The Trojan Women first, Andromache next and Hecuba last. And if you want to read the four plays, leave a very long interval of time between the first three and Ion.

The three main plays are tragedies, not in the Aristotelian sense or structure, but in the subject matter and the strong emotions that are portrayed: pity, cruelty, hate, desire for revenge, ambition the sense of helplessness in the face of a relentless tragic destiny, and murders right, left and center. All three of the plays can be considered anti-war tragedies written in the midst of the Peloponnesian War and do not skimp on the horrors and atrocities of war and its aftermath.

The Trojan War is perhaps the most difficult of the three plays for modern reader to get into. I would highly recommend watching the stark 1971 American-British-Greek drama film directed by Michael Cacoyannis and starring Katharine Hepburn (Hecuba), Vanessa Redgrave (Andromache) and Irene Papas (Helen) which can be seen at https://archive.org/details/TheTrojan... or on YouTube. In particular Irene Papas portrayal of Helen and her confrontation with Katherine Hepburn's Hecuba is not to be missed. If you are not used to older films you will need a little patience before you start appreciating the film and the play it is based on. Wikipedia helpfully points out that:
The film was made with the minimum of changes to Edith Hamilton's translation of Euripides' original play, save for the omission of deities, as Cacoyannis said they were "hard to film and make realistic".
In this harsh play, Hecuba who has seen her husband Priam killed before her eyes and suffered the loss of most of her children, learns that the surviving women have been reduced to slavery and allotted to the Greeks as prizes of war. She is also told that her remaining family is to be separated, her daughter Cassandra is allotted to Agamemnom, her daughter in law and Hector's widow Andromache to Achilles, Hector's killer's son, her grandson and Andromache's small child is to be hurled from the battlements of Troy to his death, while Helen, well Helen is being true to form and attempting to (re)seduce Menelaus, the husband she abandoned for Paris.

Andromache is an interesting play, if on a smaller, slightly more intimate level than the other two. Andromache has a child by Neoptolemus, the son of Achilles to whom she was allotted as a slave. Neoptolemus legimate wife, Hermione, Menelaus' daughter is childless and not only jealous of Andromache but alarmed by the possibility that Neoptolemus throne pass to Andromache's child. The play opens when Andromache seeks sanctuary in order to escape Hermione's murderous plots. Andromache dominates the play, but the most hair-raising scene is the probably the description of Neoptolemus assasination at Delphi -masterly!

As I mentioned earlier, Hecuba is by far the best play in the book, full of pathos, treason and gore, driven to unexpected extremes by thirst for revenge. It even has a ghost in it, hovering over most of the play ;-) One of the most barbaric and memorable murders and a blinding as shocking and as Gloucester's in King Lear is carried out hidden out of view of the spectators who only see furious battering on tent walls and can only guess, all too well, as to what is going on inside. The play ends with atrocious prophetic curses. Menelaus, ironically oblivious to his future states:
May Heaven grant that our ordeal is over
at last!
May all be well at home in Argus!
as the chorus hammers in the last nails in this excruciating tragedy:
File to the tents,
file to the harbor.
There we embark
on life as slaves.
Necessity is harsh.
Fate has no reprieve.
There is not much I want to say about Ion. While the translator does take pains to try to explain that:
...Euripides is, in fact, dealing with an important theme in earnest.
I do not agree and find the play shallow, uninspired and unconvincing. A great deal of the play is structured around a tiresome sing-song question and answer pattern as in:
Ion: And have you come alone or with your husband?
Creusa: With him. But he stayed at Trophonius' shrine.
Ion: To see it or consult the oracle?
Creusa: To ask the same as he will ask of Phoebus.
Ion: Is it about your countr's crops -or children?
Creusa: Though married long ago, we have no children.
Ion: No children! You have never had a child?
Creusa: Apollo knows my childlessness.
Ion: Ah! That misfortune cancels all your blessings.
Creusa: And who are you? Your mother must be happy!
Ion: I am what I am called, Apollo's slave.
Creusa: A city's votive gift or sold by someone?
and so on and so forth. To my modern ears, ignorant of classical greek, this is not the stuff that could have led Plutarch to write in his life of Nicias:
Several [of the athenian soldiers] were saved for the sake of Euripides, whose poetry, it appears, was in request among the Sicilians more than among any of the settlers out of Greece, And when any travellers arrived that could tell them some passage, or give them any specimen of his verses, they were delighted to be able to communicate them to one another. Many of the captives who got safe back to Athens are said, after they reached home, to have gone and made their acknowledgements to Euripides, relating how some of them had been released from their slavery by teaching what they could remember of his poems, and others, when straggling after the fight, been relieved with meat and drink for repeating some of his lyrics.
April 1,2025
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Hecuba - 5/5
The queen slays, literally and figuratively

Andromache - 5/5
Doesn’t pass the Bechdel test tho

The Trojan Women - 3/5
Too depressing

Ion - 5/5
Refreshingly wholesome <3
April 1,2025
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I've only read the Trojan women and I don't fell like reading more
April 1,2025
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I enjoyed the Hecuba and Ion, but was less enthusiastic about "The Trojan Women". These plays become more interesting when placed in their historical context, and don't necessarily stand on their own. The Ion is simply interesting to hear Euripides have characters vent at the gods. Worth reading, but not the first plays of Euripides I would recommend to a new reader.
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