wonderful, 2000 years ago everything already said about love, death, friendshiop or even the internet (via the discussion of writing)

Divin

love, love, love, love, love ….sex

I'm just glad to be done.

I give this work four stars rather than five only because I suspect the Benjamin Jowett translation is probably too rickety today. Jowett's readers knew Latin and Greek well, and would have no trouble following Plato's arguments. Of the two dialogues, I think the Phaedrus is by far the better, reaching the sublime at times. I liked it so much so that I will try to re-read it in a more modern translation as soon as I can.

my favorite speech is Aristophanes - where he tells the story of how Zeus spilt androgenous people in half, and we are looking for our other half, and finding that person is what love is...

To bøger til Platon for romantikere. Oprindelsen til "platonisk kærlighed". Og ét af de steder hvor Sokrates udlægger sin idé om at idéerne på en art måde er medfødte.

Dialogerne er for så vidt frodige, men håbløst umoderne, da det enkelte menneske i sin forgængelighed ikke er det endegyldige objekt for kærlighed, men derimod den uforgængelige ikke personlige visdom.

Der hvor Sokrates måske nok har fat i noget for mennesket i dag, er idet han anbefaler at man ikke lader sin egen lykke betinges af ét bestemt andet menneske, som den romantiske kærlighed har for vane at få os til at tro.

Enchanting.

Qué aburrimiento, colega. 150 páginas para explicar que todos son gays.

Probablement le livre le plus gay que j’ai lu de l’année.
La préface de gargantua c’est exactement le panégyrique d’Alcibiade à Socrate.
Apparemment Socrate était un tombeur et les hétéros viennent d’humains androgynes ?

Pas sûre que ça me serve en dissertation :(

This book, containing 2 dialogues, is fundamental for understanding one of the most predominant western traditions concerning love and beauty. These books influenced the Neoplatonic views on ascension to the divine, on beauty, and on love; and, through the neoplatonists, the early and medieval christian theologians.

There are three main reasons why people read Plato’s Phaedrus: love, rhetoric, and metempsychosis.

Most, I’d say, read it as an endeavor to uncover the meaning of love, to study the differences between the lover and the beloved, and to compare the non-lover to the lover. Then, there are the literature and philosophy students who are often required to read it while studying rhetoric. And, finally, there are those —like an old Druze friend of mine — who go to it to learn more about Plato’s idea of metempsychosis.

I was a curious (bored) student once, so I’ve naturally read Phaedrus multiple times for the above reasons. But today, as I find myself suffering from a mild hangover, I’m reading Phaedrus for entirely different reasons.

My Notes:
https://boredabsurdist.com/2024/01/03...