Plato's basic literature to read.

Very accessible translation, which still retains the beauty of the work. Good introduction, raising the appropriate questions without overwhelming a new reader. The notes at the end of the book are adequate for the everyman reader.

le banquet quel banger mais le Phèdre quelle purge putain

love, love, love, love, love ….sex

El banquete presenta de formas muy interesantes el tema de cómo se concibe el Amor. Por ejemplo, habla de que en su forma más elevada ("Afrodita Urania"), se halla por encima de los afectos carnales y que concibe una descendencia inmortal: la creación intelectual. (entre otras ideas)

Pero realmente me sorprendió "Fedro/ la belleza" con los temas de retorica y dialéctica. Cómo se pueden presentar dos posiciones totalmente opuestas de forma igualmente atractiva si se domina el arte de manejar el discurso. Esto siempre y cuando se hable en conceptos que dependan de cierta subjetividad. Que peligroso. E intrigante.

Y qué suerte que la ingeniería no dependa de esto. (Pero sí otras cuestiones de importancia) :D

En fin, para mi este texto valdría la pena darlo en colegios... da para pensar.

Is it true that what’s probable is more important than what’s true?

A good academic edition, with detailed footnotes. I like how it's split into introduction-translation-discussion, exactly as it would be in a classroom setting. This may be too academic for someone who isn't involved in the classics, and the translation sometimes lacks flow due to the translator's attempts at philosophical accuracy, but the liveliness of the speakers comes through & even an impatient reader will find this book to be engagingly readable.

La véritable philosophie des amants est celle de Platon ; durant le charme, ils n'en n'ont jamais d'autres. Un homme ému ne peut quitter la philosophie ; un lecteur froid ne peut le souffrir.
Jean-Jacques Rousseau

I give this work four stars rather than five only because I suspect the Benjamin Jowett translation is probably too rickety today. Jowett's readers knew Latin and Greek well, and would have no trouble following Plato's arguments. Of the two dialogues, I think the Phaedrus is by far the better, reaching the sublime at times. I liked it so much so that I will try to re-read it in a more modern translation as soon as I can.

It's philosophy...need I write more

A great example of the Socratic Method.

Plato's Phaedrus is a consequential to symposium in the nature of Eros as the master creative energy that surpasses rationality and transfigures the lover to a poet that sees the essence beyond the world of Shadows.
Socrates starts from love's negation in order to create a thesis that in a cunning way he himself shall disprove and he shall bring the notion to clarity , that the lover is a divine creature that is only restricted to reach the world of ideas only by his double-self counterpart that is immersed to the world of matter and vulgarity.
Socrates in a convincing manner builds bridges toward understanding that the equal quality is applied in all the arts ,thus inclination begets artists who dwelling in the oceanic sense of love become histors and creators likewise.
Plato appears as sifting all phenomena and in a dialectic way stands above all discourse to forge the path of theory in any issue
Book is a delight while it does retain an unmoved structure that strikes the reader with its argumentative force